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"A dream you dream alone is only a dream; a dream you dream together is reality." -- Yoko Ono
"In my heart, I think a woman has two choices: either she's a feminist or a masochist." --Gloria Steinem
Jun
18
Stupid, Animated Misogyny
Filed Under assholes, gender, misogyny, patriarchy, stereotypes | Posted by Cara |
Here’s a fun, repetitive bit of nauseating misogyny:
LOLZ! OMG! ROFL! I get it! Women are money-grubbing bitches! They must all be on their periods or something!
I found this clip through a personal blog (since it’s personal, I don’t think it’s right to provide a link). The comments are torn between those saying “wow, that’s hateful!” and those saying “hey, lighten up, it’s satire!”
Um, of what, exactly? In order to satirize something, don’t you have to take references from some sort of previous media? Am I missing something here? Last time I checked, randomly rehashed stereotypes of a certain group of people is not “satire,” no matter how “ironic” you think you’re being. So that kind of defense really pisses me off.
What pisses me off most of all, though, is the fact that women who ask for their personal space and bodily autonomy (”no means no,” “I need my space,” etc.) are constantly portrayed as being A. irrational and B. a bitch. A woman who reports sexual harassment? Prude. A woman who doesn’t want her cleavage stared at? A bitch who shouldn’t have worn that. A woman who takes offense to being called “honey” or “sweetie” (as I know from personal experience)? Totally irrational uppity bitch. A woman who says this clip is misogynist? Irrational and not really “getting” it. As for the lovely video itself, see how irrational she’s being? All he did was say HELLO! And she stabbed him! And shot him! And ripped off his skin! Poor white guy, facing all that persecution!
But hey, let’s look at the bright side. At least, for once, we’re not laughing at men abusing and raping women. What a step forward.
Thanks to Dewey for the heads up.
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"Men, their rights, and nothing more; women, their rights, and nothing less." -- Susan B. Anthony
Okay… here’s a question: what’s so awful about the fat girl? Him walking past her actually made me more mad than the rest of the video (which, I admit, is gag-inducing).
fat people are intolerable and unattractive.
I assume that it was made by a Nice Guy ™ who can’t figure out why women don’t collapse with their legs in the air at the mere mention of his name, right?
So, if you watch it in that vein, it’s kind of enjoyable and satisfying to see Mr. Nice Guy ™ getting his tiny animated skin ripped off, etc.
If you watch it any other vein, however, it is vomit city.
I’m the person that posted this video on YouTube.. I posted it because it was and still is a very funny poke at how both women and men can be and over react sometimes. I think you guys should relax a bit and just enjoy how shallow both sexes can be (women for over reacting at an honest attempt to get to know someone)(men for only looking on the outside of a woman and judging her solely by how she looks on the outside.
Both sexes are insulted here, maybe women a little more than men, but still.. Enjoy the cartoon for what it is.. a little guy getting the crap beat outta him for asking “what time is it?” :)
Yeah . . . sorry, it’s still not funny.
And it’s still not light-hearted. It’s still all about a guy feeling sorry for himself when women tell him to leave them alone and turning their basic requests into acts of violence. Which is especially not funny considering the actual violence that men do to women. That violence and the threat of it, by the way, motivates a lot of the “overreactions” women have to a guy “trying to get to know them.”
It’s not funny. It’s hateful. And you might want to do some serious soul-searching about how you truly feel about women. I don’t think you like them very much at all.
Oh, and by the way: the blogger said you’d say exactly what you did. Owned.
Well honestly that’s the great thing about the internet, if you don’t like something you don’t have to watch it. You portray women as being the most innocent of sexes. Geez what a one sided blog. Last time I checked there were women prisons for women to committed violent crimes against men and other women. Don’t come off like your sex is perfect and hasn’t had it’s fair share of violence in the world.
I think all you girls need to lighten the hell up. Here’s something you might want to do if you’re so opposed to the video.. STOP LINKING TO IT. You realize that your site has provided publicity to it by sending at least 48 people to it?
Gee.. I bet if it was a woman bashing a guy in the head with a frying pan or something you wouldn’t have noticed. I will quote the blogger in this case.
Lighten the hell up. The world is too full of serious people like yourselves that have no sense of humor and take everything so personal. If that makes me owned, then so be it.. I won’t lose sleep over a couple of opinions by self righteous people.
Oh, but wait. Your sad little cartoon *is* women allegedly abusing a man. But even you recognize that it’s deeply anti-woman because of your choice of opposite fictitious video.
Your counterarguments are on the level of a fourth-grader, as is your animation ability and sense of humor. I wish you all the luck in the world on the PSATs one of these days.
If you’re actually interested in learning something, I’d recommend http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/ But somehow, I don’t think you are.
“what a one sided blog”
Oh my god I can’t stop laughing, now. This guy is HILARIOUS. It’s a feminist blog, jackass. I agree with the recommendations to check out the Feminism 101 blog. You should probably know thing 1 about feminism before you try to comment on a feminist blog and try to argue about gender equality with feminists. You’re just looking really fucking stupid. I’m not going to sit here and explain to you how a vast majority of violence is perpetuated by men, and a vast majority of violence against women is also perpetuated by men, or how women have been systematically abused and discriminated against all over the world, because you don’t give a shit.
So thanks for the laugh, but go away.
Cara - I came here through Feministing. And I know it’s a small part of your post (and I find the video heinous as well), but I wanted to say THANK YOU for talking about how women who don’t want to be called “honey” are “totally irrational uppity bitches.” This happened to me just a few weeks ago:
I was back in my hometown celebrating my brother’s high school graduation. My family went out to dinner (there were 9 of us total, 5 males and 4 females) and our waiter referred to all the men as “sir” and all the women as “hun.” The first time he called me “hun,” I gave him evil eyes, hoping he’d take the hint. He didn’t. The second time he called me “hun,” I politely but firmly said, “Please don’t call me hun.” He froze and said, “Uh, okay. Sorry.” I said, “Thank you,” and started ordering my meal, but he interrupted and said, “It’s just a reflex from working in the restaurant business.”
That’s where I got really pissed. If he would have just left it at his (insincere) “sorry,” I would have been fine. So I looked at him and said, “I’ve worked in the restaurant business, too, and I don’t call women ‘hun.’ It’s disrespectful and degrading.” He didn’t call a single other woman at my table “hun” the rest of the night.
But, of course, my family jumped all over me for it.
“He was just trying to be nice!” my mom protested.
“Nice?” I responded. “That’s not nice, it’s degrading. He called all the men ’sir,’ and he called me ‘hun.’ That’s not a sign of nicety or respect.”
“Well, here’s the thing, Soup,” my aunt said. “You’re an attractive young woman, totally out of his league. He was just nervous and so he was trying to cover up for himself by passing it off as a habit of working in the restaurant industry.”
“It doesn’t matter what I look like,” I responded. “It is still disrespectful. And if he would have just left it at ’sorry,’ that would have been fine. But he shouldn’t have tried to cop out with his lame excuse anyway.”
UGH. Whew. I know it’s long, but I just had to share. My boyfriend was there, too, and he’s the only one at the table who understood what I was getting at. The rest of my family thought it was just a harmless little thing - but harmless little things can belie larger things within a society.
Thanks for sharing, Soup . . . sounds like my family!
I can’t help it but sometimes i think you feminists are kinda eager to be discriminated. Otherwise you wouldn’t pay half as much attention to every least of it.
I guess i’ll sue the next girl who tells me that men are di*k-driven, no matter if she thinks of it as a “joke”. Sorry girl, you’ve just discriminated me.
Well, it’s none of my buisness if you’d like to see the world as a cruel place inhabited by either woman or rapists, but why don’t *try* to lighten up…at least sometimes.
There are quite a lot of “Nice Guys” ,as you call them, who are just sorta “irritated” by female behaviour sometimes ;)
And as those things mentioned in the movie have become quite a clichee amongst many of them, this guy just made a little fun of it, by adding (and of course exaggerating) some anecdotes. Thats all..
So, well, that’s it. I don’t know if you find anything discriminating in this as well and delete it, but its just my humble opinion. Why dont just try to relax..
Uh, being Nice Guy(tm) is not a GOOD thing, Sion. Though I certainly do believe that you are one. Please don’t comment on feminism when you clearly don’t understand its basic concepts in the least.
Also, I’d take your opinion a lot more seriously if you didn’t use phrases like “you’ve just discriminated me.”
As i’m not a woman nor a feminist i just know what they told me about the meaning of feminism, back at school, which was something about an equal rights-movement.
But well, maybe this isn’t the point of feminism anymore.
If it still is, please just tell me what this little cartoon has to deal with it.
I already did. Try reading the post.
Come back when you’ve learned something: finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com
Obviosly im blind, mind if you explain it a second time? ;)
Yes, I do. Go away and stop winking at me.
I love lazy and stupid trolls, don’t you Cara?
Sion, do the females a favor. Where a sign around your neck - a large and neon colored sign - that says “misogynist”. That way we can avoid you and you can continue in your stupid and lazy haze. Deal?
For real. I’m personally taking this as a lesson about what happens when you don’t ignore trolls. Ugh. Sometimes my desire to mock them over-rides my rational knowledge that I should just ignore them. :)
The funny thing is I used to believe I was quite the feminist. Totally believe in equal rights in the workplace or anywhere really. Being in a family of traditional Chinese people I’ve had to undergo the “bigger brother is the better investment” deal (and have heatedly protested). But, I have to say, as much as I have read and listened and found many articles, animations, songs, movies degrading and offensive to the status of women in a particular society, everyone needs to be able to laugh at themselves sometimes. Ok, so maybe it’s a huge generalization, and obviously a huge exaggeration but it is first and foremost a joke. I mean, unless you haven’t noticed, they are plenty of jokes and generalizations and exaggerations about men to. As Sion mentioned, men are always the ones perceived as the “sex-obsessed”, chauvinistic, self-centered people. And in fact, I found that, if you’re looking for meaning, the little guy keeps grinning after being bashed up. Obviously making him a guy who doesn’t learn is rather/completely idiotic. and what’s wrong with that, the women in the animation see that in him and bash him up and defend themselves from an idiotic man… And now, the animation is no longer poking fun at women but at men, and their gullibility. Besides, the woman went for his money, that just makes her in control, she’s obviously headstrong, right? She knows what she needs, and in the end he’s the one who just falls for it! So there you go, enjoy shredding my argument to pieces, I’m sure it’ll relax your nerves!
p.s. and I won’t put a smile in there, otherwise you might think I’m being condescending. All the best, keep ignoring those trolls..
“As Sion mentioned, men are always the ones perceived as the “sex-obsessed”, chauvinistic, self-centered people. ”
And just who created this stereotype?
The problem the “it’s just a joke, relax” thing fails to address is that stereotypes are created by patriarchy to validate patriarchy, to support and nomalize unearned, undeserved male priledge and to cement attitudes that are deliberately designed to oppress the Other.
The one example of an less-than-ideal male stereotype is one example of patriarchy hating on men.
I’m amazed that the self righteous people here who are excoriating people for not taking enough time to learn about feminism clearly haven’t even bothered to do even a cursory examination of Don Hertzfeldt and his art. He’s a highly successful and critically highly regarded award winning animator. Part of his style is that he likes to animate random violence and push people’s buttons. You can either enjoy it for what it is or not. Also, I find it amusing (saddening) that no one even bothered to point out that the most obvious reading of this is that he’s making fun not of the women, but of the kinds of guys who hold these attitudes that women are unfair towards them. It certainly makes it clear that you’re simply looking for something to get upset about.
If Hertzfeldt likes to push people’s buttons, I imagine that he wouldn’t be all that that surprised that we’re upset. And it certainly seems clear to me that you’re looking for something to feel superior about. If a misogynist, stick-figure animated short is the best you’ve got, good luck to you.
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