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	<title>Comments on: Pittsburgh&#8217;s Finest Aren&#8217;t So Fine with Women&#8217;s Rights Groups</title>
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		<title>By: Scientista</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/07/03/pittsburghs-finest-arent-so-fine-with-womens-rights-groups/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator>Scientista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago, a law was proposed that would ban men who had been convicted of domestic violence from owning firearms. The Fraternal Order of Police were vehement in their opposition to this law. Why? Because it would put a huge percentage of police out of a job.  the FOP claimed that these men had paid their debt to society and shouldn&#039;t be further punished by laws such as this. 

(Police)Men who beat women defend other men who beat women. This is why we have a system that further victimizes victims of domestic violence.

Looks like some of those guys are on both sides of the thin blue line when it comes to victimizing women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, a law was proposed that would ban men who had been convicted of domestic violence from owning firearms. The Fraternal Order of Police were vehement in their opposition to this law. Why? Because it would put a huge percentage of police out of a job.  the FOP claimed that these men had paid their debt to society and shouldn&#8217;t be further punished by laws such as this. </p>
<p>(Police)Men who beat women defend other men who beat women. This is why we have a system that further victimizes victims of domestic violence.</p>
<p>Looks like some of those guys are on both sides of the thin blue line when it comes to victimizing women.</p>
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		<title>By: akeeyu</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/07/03/pittsburghs-finest-arent-so-fine-with-womens-rights-groups/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>akeeyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon the extreme cynicism here, but I frequently think things like this go back to property law.

If the men in question had beaten somebody else&#039;s wife or child, they&#039;d probably be fired, but because they only beat their own wives or children and therefore only damaged their own property, it&#039;s not so bad, right?

This seems to be the takeaway lesson for that argument.

Something alarmingly similar happens frequently when it comes to child molestation, too.  The penalties for molesting someone else&#039;s child are usually stiffer than the penalties for molesting your own.  In California, many convicted sex offenders are barred from consorting with children, unless those children are their own flesh and blood.  Because, you know, you want to keep THAT shit in the family.

...the hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon the extreme cynicism here, but I frequently think things like this go back to property law.</p>
<p>If the men in question had beaten somebody else&#8217;s wife or child, they&#8217;d probably be fired, but because they only beat their own wives or children and therefore only damaged their own property, it&#8217;s not so bad, right?</p>
<p>This seems to be the takeaway lesson for that argument.</p>
<p>Something alarmingly similar happens frequently when it comes to child molestation, too.  The penalties for molesting someone else&#8217;s child are usually stiffer than the penalties for molesting your own.  In California, many convicted sex offenders are barred from consorting with children, unless those children are their own flesh and blood.  Because, you know, you want to keep THAT shit in the family.</p>
<p>&#8230;the hell?</p>
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