Comments on: Positive Pro-Choice News

By: Cara

Cara — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:15:49 +0000

If you want to have an actual discussion, it would probably serve you well to not open with a condescending finger wag at my choice of words. Though I think that I’ve made my lack of intentions to continue a discussion with the anti-choice crowd rather clear.

Also, you’re absolutely correct that disagreeing with a point does not make it invalid. Being able to refute a point with logic is what makes it invalid.

By: michelle

michelle — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:25:50 +0000

Well interesting that is up until the foul language and name calling. Just because one doens’t share the same exact views doesn’t mean their points are not valid. Each party has made valid points- gives one something to think about…

Now if you want to curse at me – well okay. I hope it makes your statements seem validated and not just sound frustrated.

By: michelle

michelle — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:21:58 +0000

Language language. Scott directed me to this website and I found it very interesting.

By: Cara

Cara — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:36:00 +0000

Scott's comment is deleted, and he is banned, but I'd like to think that this special message will some how still reach him through the cosmos: Fuck You.

By: Cara

Cara — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:17:03 +0000

Tyra, to answer your question, Planned Parenthood doesn't exactly actively promote sexual pleasure, but they do in fact support the idea of sexual pleasure and see expressing one's sexuality as a right. They also promote knowing one's body both from a health and a pleasure perspective. You can see more on their stance here and here.

By: Cara

Cara — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:38:52 +0000

Wow, Scott. I have tolerated you for long enough, now. I can’t even begin to tell you how much of your comment offended me. If you love god and want to worship him and denounce sexually active people, go do it in your church or on your own damn blog. Not mine. You are insulting every sexually active person who has ever had sex outside of a “meaningful relationship.” Which is most people. THAT is insulting. SakuraPassion calling your buddy a tool is not insulting, because he was acting like one. And oh, because it’s my blog. If you did read the comment policy, you will see that I make the calls, there is no appeals process, and that I also don’t tolerate anti-choice language. So. You lose. Comment again and your comment will be deleted. And you will be banned. The end.

For the record, I think that any teenager who believes that he or she is ready for sexual activity can fuck anyone he or she wants to. I sure as hell did. That is the teenager’s right as human being, and I support them in that decision as long as they protect themselves.

Folks, take this as a lesson as to what happens when you make the mistake of trying to engage anti-choice individuals in rational dialogue.

By: cherylp

cherylp — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:43:31 +0000

And also, feminists do not believe that women are gifts. We believe that they’re people. And women masturbate too – they still seem able to see men as people and not objects.

By: cherylp

cherylp — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:35:13 +0000

I also work at Planned Parenthood (although in Canada) on a great phone line where anyone can call in and get information on anything to do with sex. As a point of policy, we NEVER tell people what to do with their bodies or sexual lives, thus nobody would have told a girl or woman that having a child would “ruin her life and she should just get rid of it.” The point of the phone line (and of Planned Parenthood in general) is to give people facts about sexual health so they can make their OWN decisions. Period. So had she contacted us, we would have answered her specific questions. We would have told her about her options with repect to her pregnancy, and given her resources to help her in whatever decision SHE made. For her OWN body and life. Just wanted to clarify that…

By: scott Carter

scott Carter — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:51:56 +0000

A response to Tyra’s letter.
Tyra,
Firstly I agree what a horrible thing for that 12 year old to end up giving birth. How did planned parenthood help her? Maybe they might have told her that by giving birth as a child she is ruing her life and she should get rid of the child.
I agree that my kids will more than likely test the waters before their time. I am in the process preparing to try to help them see the ramifacations and the emptiness of doing it prior though.
Also with this 12 yr old. Who is to say that there wasn’t a condom involved. They are only like 97% effective. We can teach kids gun safety, but they still can hurt themselves, so we only allow them to use guns under parental supervision.
Yes someone needs to be there for these kids making bad decisions, but do we need to do an outreach program? Is it necessary to hand out condoms? Would they have given one to a 12 year old?
Thank you for your points, but yes I do believe that Cara was saying that promoting sexual pleasure was not a bad thing.

Perhaps we need to be doing more outreach to these parents blind to the potential of their kids having sex. That would be like letting them take that car and not thinking they would speed. Maybe we should teach them how to talk to their kids.

By: scott Carter

scott Carter — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:27:11 +0000

Cara,
One other thing. Your very own comment policy says…This blog encourages and welcomes comments, debate and discussion. However, only rational, friendly debate will be tolerated. …..Any comments which are insulting, derogatory or inflammatory will be deleted……. These types of comments include, but are not limited to, those that are purposely racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-feminist and/or anti-choice. Repeat offenders will be banned.

Seems to me that SakuraPassion’s comment fits within the aforementioned parameters.