Comments on: Judge: Sometimes Bitches Like to Get Smacked http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/ Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:40:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roy http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1781 Roy Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:58:57 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1781 That's insane. You know, maybe I'm a bit crazy, but if she <i>had</i> consented to it, doesn't the judge think that she'd have testified to that effect? I mean, I'm no expert, but I'd think that, if the police arrested my partner for abusing me, and the "abuse" that they arrested her for was something that I had requested, you can be damned sure that I show up to court and the police station saying "Hey! Yo! You can't charge her with abuse! I <i>asked</i> her to do that! It was totally with consent!" Hell, I'd probably get the press involved if they wouldn't listen. What I <i>wouldn't</i> do? Sit around and let my partner go to trial for doing something consentual. It seems to me that a person is more likely not to testify when they're <i>frightened</i> than when they're thinking "aw, that sucks. They're trying to punish him for doing something I liked." That’s insane.

You know, maybe I’m a bit crazy, but if she had consented to it, doesn’t the judge think that she’d have testified to that effect? I mean, I’m no expert, but I’d think that, if the police arrested my partner for abusing me, and the “abuse” that they arrested her for was something that I had requested, you can be damned sure that I show up to court and the police station saying “Hey! Yo! You can’t charge her with abuse! I asked her to do that! It was totally with consent!” Hell, I’d probably get the press involved if they wouldn’t listen.

What I wouldn’t do? Sit around and let my partner go to trial for doing something consentual.

It seems to me that a person is more likely not to testify when they’re frightened than when they’re thinking “aw, that sucks. They’re trying to punish him for doing something I liked.”

]]> By: mom http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1779 mom Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:34:24 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1779 PRIMAL SCREAM How on earth can this be real??? SECOND PRIMAL SCREAM PRIMAL SCREAM
How on earth can this be real???
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]]> By: Jenee http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1775 Jenee Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:55:33 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1775 I feel like there have to be numerous individuals who deal with battered women who could explain that women often fear speaking out against their abusers. The behavior of the victimized often seem counter-intuitive to those who have never been victimized. Shouldn't it be the duty of the judicial system to make sure that jurors and judges are aware of these patterns of behavior so that they can make a truly informed decisions? Her absence isn't evidence that she consented to the battery and they should know that! I feel like there have to be numerous individuals who deal with battered women who could explain that women often fear speaking out against their abusers. The behavior of the victimized often seem counter-intuitive to those who have never been victimized. Shouldn’t it be the duty of the judicial system to make sure that jurors and judges are aware of these patterns of behavior so that they can make a truly informed decisions? Her absence isn’t evidence that she consented to the battery and they should know that!

]]> By: rich http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1772 rich Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:35:25 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1772 That's fucked up; no excuses for the judge. That’s fucked up; no excuses for the judge.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1769 Cara Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:02:05 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1769 Indeed. I agree, thordora that while I can't say that I personally approve of overly violent BDSM, and while I think that it's a bad idea and potentially an arena that could involve questions around consent, people are welcome to consensually engage in whatever sexual activity they like with an equally consenting partner. So if a woman gets off on being hit -- though it's my understanding that this fetish is actually more common among straight males than straight females -- like it or not, we can't really do anything about that. As you've said, the idea that this is the same as domestic abuse, though, is not only insane, it's also incredibly irresponsible, hateful towards women and intentionally downplaying of violence against women. Indeed. I agree, thordora that while I can’t say that I personally approve of overly violent BDSM, and while I think that it’s a bad idea and potentially an arena that could involve questions around consent, people are welcome to consensually engage in whatever sexual activity they like with an equally consenting partner.

So if a woman gets off on being hit — though it’s my understanding that this fetish is actually more common among straight males than straight females — like it or not, we can’t really do anything about that. As you’ve said, the idea that this is the same as domestic abuse, though, is not only insane, it’s also incredibly irresponsible, hateful towards women and intentionally downplaying of violence against women.

]]> By: thordora http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1768 thordora Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:51:27 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1768 When I first saw the headline and blurb, I figured, well, ok, it's some sort of M/S thing and she went to court and explained it to the judge with her partner. But lo, it's not that at all. How a judge can bring up consensual sex practices in a case where the victim isn't even present is beyond me. That doesn't make sense no matter how I try to wrap my tired little brain around it. When I first saw the headline and blurb, I figured, well, ok, it’s some sort of M/S thing and she went to court and explained it to the judge with her partner.

But lo, it’s not that at all. How a judge can bring up consensual sex practices in a case where the victim isn’t even present is beyond me. That doesn’t make sense no matter how I try to wrap my tired little brain around it.

]]> By: Mary Tracy9 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1766 Mary Tracy9 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:10 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1766 Horrific. As you very well said, in the hypothetical case that she DID want to be hit, how does that excuse the man's actions? What, does he simply have to give in to whatever she wants? This is in my modest opinion an example of what too much porn can do to people. Women like to be raped and beaten, they grow up seeing it, it's second nature to them. Horrific. As you very well said, in the hypothetical case that she DID want to be hit, how does that excuse the man’s actions? What, does he simply have to give in to whatever she wants?

This is in my modest opinion an example of what too much porn can do to people. Women like to be raped and beaten, they grow up seeing it, it’s second nature to them.

]]> By: Rachel http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1763 Rachel Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:32:33 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/22/judge-sometimes-bitches-like-to-get-smacked/#comment-1763 Yikes. I've encountered the "Well if you don't leave him, then you get what you deserve" line of thinking - but never this "maybe she wanted it." At least, not in terms of domestic violence. Again: what seems like common sense to me, that an abused woman wouldn't want to testify against her abuser, is apparently foreign to other people. I'm pretty appalled at the way that some judges twist our legal system to get out of assigning punishment where appropriate. Yikes. I’ve encountered the “Well if you don’t leave him, then you get what you deserve” line of thinking – but never this “maybe she wanted it.” At least, not in terms of domestic violence.

Again: what seems like common sense to me, that an abused woman wouldn’t want to testify against her abuser, is apparently foreign to other people. I’m pretty appalled at the way that some judges twist our legal system to get out of assigning punishment where appropriate.

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