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	<title>Comments on: Halloween and Racism: Both Scary</title>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1860</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying that the actions of a few &quot;reinforce&quot; prejudiced views indicates that the view is seen to have some actual validity.  You can&#039;t &quot;reinforce&quot; a view that doesn&#039;t make sense in the first place.  To say that a myth about racism gives extra validity to such an incredibly hateful view is outrageous, particularly since the two are not at all related.  How does the picnic story, being false, in any way demonstrate the inferiority of blacks?  There&#039;s absolutely no connection there -- that the writer chose to make a connection shows where her alliances are.  She is basically saying &quot;look at this thing that a few black people did that slightly lives up to a stereotype -- it sure seems like evidence that the racists are right!&quot;  Here are some other very similar examples:

&quot;The fact that women complain about sexism but still wear skimpy clothes reinforces the misogynist view that raping women is perfectly acceptable.&quot;

&quot;The fact that Hispanics complain about stereotypes and yet still insist on eating burritos just reinforces the white supremacist view that we shouldn&#039;t let any brown people into the country.&quot;

&quot;The fact that many black people actually do eat fried chicken merely reinforces the racist view that slavery was a good idea.&quot;

&quot;Jews complain about antisemitism, but are often very wealthy.  This reinforces the Nazi view that the Holocaust was necessary.&quot;

See, I would hope that every one of those statements offended you.  They offend me.  They&#039;re outrageous and nonsensical.  The leaps of logic are meaningless and idiotic.  And the fact that the writer/speaker would make such an insane leap shows the prejudiced way in which their mind works.  It is espousing the very view that it claims to be &quot;commenting&quot; on.  If you can say &quot;So X group does Y, which means that completely unrelated prejudiced view F is true,&quot;  it seems to me that you&#039;re desperately looking around for reasons to be racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying that the actions of a few &#8220;reinforce&#8221; prejudiced views indicates that the view is seen to have some actual validity.  You can&#8217;t &#8220;reinforce&#8221; a view that doesn&#8217;t make sense in the first place.  To say that a myth about racism gives extra validity to such an incredibly hateful view is outrageous, particularly since the two are not at all related.  How does the picnic story, being false, in any way demonstrate the inferiority of blacks?  There&#8217;s absolutely no connection there &#8212; that the writer chose to make a connection shows where her alliances are.  She is basically saying &#8220;look at this thing that a few black people did that slightly lives up to a stereotype &#8212; it sure seems like evidence that the racists are right!&#8221;  Here are some other very similar examples:</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that women complain about sexism but still wear skimpy clothes reinforces the misogynist view that raping women is perfectly acceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that Hispanics complain about stereotypes and yet still insist on eating burritos just reinforces the white supremacist view that we shouldn&#8217;t let any brown people into the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that many black people actually do eat fried chicken merely reinforces the racist view that slavery was a good idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Jews complain about antisemitism, but are often very wealthy.  This reinforces the Nazi view that the Holocaust was necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>See, I would hope that every one of those statements offended you.  They offend me.  They&#8217;re outrageous and nonsensical.  The leaps of logic are meaningless and idiotic.  And the fact that the writer/speaker would make such an insane leap shows the prejudiced way in which their mind works.  It is espousing the very view that it claims to be &#8220;commenting&#8221; on.  If you can say &#8220;So X group does Y, which means that completely unrelated prejudiced view F is true,&#8221;  it seems to me that you&#8217;re desperately looking around for reasons to be racist.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1858</link>
		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Could someone please explain why that last paragraph from Snopes is racist (on the part of Snopes)? I read it as Snopes explaining what the white supremicists think - which is indeed racist - not that Snopes thinks that way.

Could someone please translate so that I understand what the problem is?

Thanks very much!</description>
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<p>Could someone please explain why that last paragraph from Snopes is racist (on the part of Snopes)? I read it as Snopes explaining what the white supremicists think &#8211; which is indeed racist &#8211; not that Snopes thinks that way.</p>
<p>Could someone please translate so that I understand what the problem is?</p>
<p>Thanks very much!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, Let me tell you... My first year of college was when they overloaded me with the concept of &quot;white-privilege&quot;, and I was so sick of that word! For the longest time I did not understand why they taught this concept except to make me feel guilty with no way of correction. I became paranoid that I was being unconsciously racist and blamed them because I assumed thinking about being racist would make me more racist than if I had not thought it at all. My logic had been if I saw a black man walk towards me and did not consciously think anything about it then I was not racist. However, since I was analyzing everything I would think, “Do I think he is going to attack me because he is black?” and wondered if it was racist to even think that.  This is why I believe white people are so eager to “forget.” If they do not think, see, or respond to racism then they cannot be racist. Most people do not want to be racist, they do not realize it has become second nature to white Americans (and others too) to be racist at least to a point. For me it took many years to come to realize white privilege was not about making me feel guilty, it was meant to open my eyes and not take for granted that I was white and didn’t have to live with racism being part of my every day life. By being aware, people can help defeat racism. On a side note, I found a very great website you should see.  http://colours.mahost.org/org/maleprivilege.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, Let me tell you&#8230; My first year of college was when they overloaded me with the concept of &#8220;white-privilege&#8221;, and I was so sick of that word! For the longest time I did not understand why they taught this concept except to make me feel guilty with no way of correction. I became paranoid that I was being unconsciously racist and blamed them because I assumed thinking about being racist would make me more racist than if I had not thought it at all. My logic had been if I saw a black man walk towards me and did not consciously think anything about it then I was not racist. However, since I was analyzing everything I would think, “Do I think he is going to attack me because he is black?” and wondered if it was racist to even think that.  This is why I believe white people are so eager to “forget.” If they do not think, see, or respond to racism then they cannot be racist. Most people do not want to be racist, they do not realize it has become second nature to white Americans (and others too) to be racist at least to a point. For me it took many years to come to realize white privilege was not about making me feel guilty, it was meant to open my eyes and not take for granted that I was white and didn’t have to live with racism being part of my every day life. By being aware, people can help defeat racism. On a side note, I found a very great website you should see.  <a href="http://colours.mahost.org/org/maleprivilege.html" rel="nofollow">http://colours.mahost.org/org/maleprivilege.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don’t bang your head too hard. You might leave noticably dark bruises and be accused of putting on blackface. Then you won’t be allowed to bang your head anymore.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm, has anyone else noticed that racists don&#039;t do &quot;clever&quot; well?  My guess is that it has to do with the complete and utter inability to process critical and self-reflective thought.

I&#039;m just going to ban S.  I&#039;m not going to be able to sit around and babysit all day, and I really don&#039;t see this going anywhere good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don’t bang your head too hard. You might leave noticably dark bruises and be accused of putting on blackface. Then you won’t be allowed to bang your head anymore.</i></p>
<p>Hmm, has anyone else noticed that racists don&#8217;t do &#8220;clever&#8221; well?  My guess is that it has to do with the complete and utter inability to process critical and self-reflective thought.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just going to ban S.  I&#8217;m not going to be able to sit around and babysit all day, and I really don&#8217;t see this going anywhere good.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1838</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t support snopes editorializing - i only despise the silly myths - something which we agree on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t support snopes editorializing &#8211; i only despise the silly myths &#8211; something which we agree on.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t bang your head too hard.  You might leave noticably dark bruises and be accused of putting on blackface.  Then you won&#039;t be allowed to bang your head anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t bang your head too hard.  You might leave noticably dark bruises and be accused of putting on blackface.  Then you won&#8217;t be allowed to bang your head anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1834</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND I get to fill in a square on &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/blackfolk/2290819.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my bingo card&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND I get to fill in a square on <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/blackfolk/2290819.html" rel="nofollow">my bingo card</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DING DING DING DING DING

. . . And Cara&#039;s prediction wins!  The grand prize is the opportunity to bang her head against her desk.  Well played.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DING DING DING DING DING</p>
<p>. . . And Cara&#8217;s prediction wins!  The grand prize is the opportunity to bang her head against her desk.  Well played.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1832</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The constant fostering of political correctness in our society and pandering to certain groups will continue to create a nation of crybabies.  Instead of nitpicking about perceived slights it would serve everyone well if people would focus more on making the most of their own lives.  Attitude is everything and when I see a hanged man I associate it with just punishment for someone who&#039;s commited a heinous crime.

Reading something darker and nefarous into it is really a relection of the person perceiving it, not the person who put it up.  And personally I think that&#039;s just too much damn energy to waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constant fostering of political correctness in our society and pandering to certain groups will continue to create a nation of crybabies.  Instead of nitpicking about perceived slights it would serve everyone well if people would focus more on making the most of their own lives.  Attitude is everything and when I see a hanged man I associate it with just punishment for someone who&#8217;s commited a heinous crime.</p>
<p>Reading something darker and nefarous into it is really a relection of the person perceiving it, not the person who put it up.  And personally I think that&#8217;s just too much damn energy to waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/10/27/halloween-and-racism-both-scary/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Michelle, I followed that link that you provided for &quot;picnic&quot; and I agree that the myth is a silly one.  But this last paragraph just stopped me cold in my tracks (and I&#039;m not saying that you support it, I&#039;m merely pointing it out because it&#039;s so outrageous):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a very real downside to spouting hoax definitions just because they push a few buttons: It makes those doing the yelling look uneducated and ineducable. Those who run with their emotions instead of using their heads end up doing the racists&#039; work for them by making themselves appear to be foolish shadow-jumpers incapable of cracking open any random dictionary before yelling that the sky is falling. This popeyed caricature image is not something one wishes to foster if racism is to be defeated; &lt;i&gt;it merely serves to reinforce the white supremacists&#039; claim that blacks are inherently inferior&lt;/i&gt;. [emphasis mine]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What. The. Fuck.  I never realized that snopes made a habit of editorializing, let alone in such a racist way.  I don&#039;t think that I&#039;ll be going there for a while . . .&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Michelle, I followed that link that you provided for &#8220;picnic&#8221; and I agree that the myth is a silly one.  But this last paragraph just stopped me cold in my tracks (and I&#8217;m not saying that you support it, I&#8217;m merely pointing it out because it&#8217;s so outrageous):</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s a very real downside to spouting hoax definitions just because they push a few buttons: It makes those doing the yelling look uneducated and ineducable. Those who run with their emotions instead of using their heads end up doing the racists&#8217; work for them by making themselves appear to be foolish shadow-jumpers incapable of cracking open any random dictionary before yelling that the sky is falling. This popeyed caricature image is not something one wishes to foster if racism is to be defeated; <i>it merely serves to reinforce the white supremacists&#8217; claim that blacks are inherently inferior</i>. [emphasis mine]</p>
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<p>What. The. Fuck.  I never realized that snopes made a habit of editorializing, let alone in such a racist way.  I don&#8217;t think that I&#8217;ll be going there for a while . . .</p>
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