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	<title>Comments on: The Racism of Cosmetic Surgery</title>
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		<title>By: tina</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-3580</link>
		<dc:creator>tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I contest the afore claimed *extremity* of Asian blepharoplasty; unless you&#039;re from a Far East culture, the much more invasive and potentially damaging breast implant is probably more common and therefore less outlandish or extreme. However in those cultures, such surgeries have been around for some two hundred years. Additionally, in those times the little cut could mean the difference between a girl&#039;s marriage and successful future or shame and ruin to the family, and remants of those ideas, however unreasonable. still guide Oriental society to some extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I contest the afore claimed *extremity* of Asian blepharoplasty; unless you&#8217;re from a Far East culture, the much more invasive and potentially damaging breast implant is probably more common and therefore less outlandish or extreme. However in those cultures, such surgeries have been around for some two hundred years. Additionally, in those times the little cut could mean the difference between a girl&#8217;s marriage and successful future or shame and ruin to the family, and remants of those ideas, however unreasonable. still guide Oriental society to some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2195</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Gloria.  I was thinking more along the lines that breast implants can be taken out, where as I have no idea if an eye surgery could be reversed.  Probably, but I have to imagine that the leg-lengthening surgeries are completely permanent.  

Also, I&#039;m pretty uncomfortable all around with celebrity worship.  I don&#039;t think that there would necessarily be anything wrong in admiring a woman&#039;s beauty, in so far as people say &quot;oh, I want to know how to do that hairstyle&quot; or &quot;I really like her fashion style&quot; and copying those things.  But when we get into surgery and pressure towards weight loss, and basically anything that tells women (a) they don&#039;t look fine as they are and (b) not being &quot;pretty&quot; is the end of the world, well, I&#039;ve got a problem with that no matter who women and girls are trying to look like.  Which again brings me back to promoting wider and more fluid notions of beauty :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Gloria.  I was thinking more along the lines that breast implants can be taken out, where as I have no idea if an eye surgery could be reversed.  Probably, but I have to imagine that the leg-lengthening surgeries are completely permanent.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m pretty uncomfortable all around with celebrity worship.  I don&#8217;t think that there would necessarily be anything wrong in admiring a woman&#8217;s beauty, in so far as people say &#8220;oh, I want to know how to do that hairstyle&#8221; or &#8220;I really like her fashion style&#8221; and copying those things.  But when we get into surgery and pressure towards weight loss, and basically anything that tells women (a) they don&#8217;t look fine as they are and (b) not being &#8220;pretty&#8221; is the end of the world, well, I&#8217;ve got a problem with that no matter who women and girls are trying to look like.  Which again brings me back to promoting wider and more fluid notions of beauty :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Japan for nine years, and what struck me was the strength and vitality of the sub-cultures: There were girls who embraced hip-hop culture and visited the tanning salons to get their skin as dark as possible, goth girls who sported mid-night black hair, etc. And of course, Harajuku girls who are now trend-setters, exporting their look and style through the likes of Gwen Stefani. It has been a puzzle to me why so many girls and women seem to aspire to looks that would require drastic change rather than finding the physical role models they could most easily follow. For example, less endowed women could be looking to Keira Knightley instead of Carmen Electra.

As to the point about eye surgery being more drastic than breast implants, I agree only so far as Hollywood-driven aesthetic hegemony is just not good for societies all over the world. But once the eye surgery is done, it&#039;s done. Breast implants, however, opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of women&#039;s health and family impact. Here in the US, implants, replacement implants, biannual MRI monitoring, and treatment for complications (very likely) are NOT covered by insurance, so we&#039;re talking about financial costs that could and actually have pushed many a family to insolvency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Japan for nine years, and what struck me was the strength and vitality of the sub-cultures: There were girls who embraced hip-hop culture and visited the tanning salons to get their skin as dark as possible, goth girls who sported mid-night black hair, etc. And of course, Harajuku girls who are now trend-setters, exporting their look and style through the likes of Gwen Stefani. It has been a puzzle to me why so many girls and women seem to aspire to looks that would require drastic change rather than finding the physical role models they could most easily follow. For example, less endowed women could be looking to Keira Knightley instead of Carmen Electra.</p>
<p>As to the point about eye surgery being more drastic than breast implants, I agree only so far as Hollywood-driven aesthetic hegemony is just not good for societies all over the world. But once the eye surgery is done, it&#8217;s done. Breast implants, however, opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of women&#8217;s health and family impact. Here in the US, implants, replacement implants, biannual MRI monitoring, and treatment for complications (very likely) are NOT covered by insurance, so we&#8217;re talking about financial costs that could and actually have pushed many a family to insolvency.</p>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like feetbinding for the 21st century.  I do know people who have gotten the &quot;eye widening&quot; surgery, and it is quite an extensive process.  And that leg lengthening thing is sick (Gattaca?).

I never thought about complementing a woman about her &quot;exotic&quot; appearance as being reinforcing of the white baseline; maybe it is my own ignorance.  In Japan, people conceive of other skin colors like black or white as being &quot;exotic.&quot;  I think the term does not necessarily mean exotic in relation to white culture, but rather in relation to whatever culture that person originates from.  Still, the operations you mentioned are most definitely a product of white culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like feetbinding for the 21st century.  I do know people who have gotten the &#8220;eye widening&#8221; surgery, and it is quite an extensive process.  And that leg lengthening thing is sick (Gattaca?).</p>
<p>I never thought about complementing a woman about her &#8220;exotic&#8221; appearance as being reinforcing of the white baseline; maybe it is my own ignorance.  In Japan, people conceive of other skin colors like black or white as being &#8220;exotic.&#8221;  I think the term does not necessarily mean exotic in relation to white culture, but rather in relation to whatever culture that person originates from.  Still, the operations you mentioned are most definitely a product of white culture.</p>
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		<title>By: EG</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>EG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess the good news is that we&#039;ve made &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; of progress on these issues already.  For black and white women, hair straightening, while all too prevalent, is no longer required.  It is now possibly to be a black professional woman and have natural hair, and many white women are keeping the curl as well.  The progress is there...but when faced with sawing apart women&#039;s legs, it seems so miniscule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess the good news is that we&#8217;ve made <i>a lot</i> of progress on these issues already.  For black and white women, hair straightening, while all too prevalent, is no longer required.  It is now possibly to be a black professional woman and have natural hair, and many white women are keeping the curl as well.  The progress is there&#8230;but when faced with sawing apart women&#8217;s legs, it seems so miniscule.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2018</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . I have no idea what that&#039;s supposed to mean.  I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; know that his page is far from legit -- and thank god, considering the basic language difficulties displayed both here and there.  Oh, and his link is NSFW.  So you might not want to click on it -- I learned the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . I have no idea what that&#8217;s supposed to mean.  I <i>do</i> know that his page is far from legit &#8212; and thank god, considering the basic language difficulties displayed both here and there.  Oh, and his link is NSFW.  So you might not want to click on it &#8212; I learned the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: male breast reduction new york</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>male breast reduction new york</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are naturally materialistic they believe in what they see thats, why every bodies not a millionaire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are naturally materialistic they believe in what they see thats, why every bodies not a millionaire</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more, EG.  

I also think that surgeries are becoming more extreme and invasive.  I mean, purposely breaking someone&#039;s nose and putting it back together is envasive enough.  So is cutting open a woman&#039;s breasts and inserting saline poches.   But for some reason, eye surgery strikes me as more extreme, and certainly so do the leg surgeries, and the genital surgeries just scare the crap out of me.

You also bring to mind an important and daunting point -- how the hell do we fight this kind of plastic surgery if we haven&#039;t effectively fought things like compulsive hair straightening?  And how do we fight things like compulsive hair straightening, when other such extreme measures are becoming normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, EG.  </p>
<p>I also think that surgeries are becoming more extreme and invasive.  I mean, purposely breaking someone&#8217;s nose and putting it back together is envasive enough.  So is cutting open a woman&#8217;s breasts and inserting saline poches.   But for some reason, eye surgery strikes me as more extreme, and certainly so do the leg surgeries, and the genital surgeries just scare the crap out of me.</p>
<p>You also bring to mind an important and daunting point &#8212; how the hell do we fight this kind of plastic surgery if we haven&#8217;t effectively fought things like compulsive hair straightening?  And how do we fight things like compulsive hair straightening, when other such extreme measures are becoming normal?</p>
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		<title>By: EG</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>EG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some ways, this sounds like an extension of the ethnic erasure that cosmetic surgery has been enacting &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; the US for a while (obviously it&#039;s global scale is disturbing)--consider how common it is to think of Jewish women in the US getting nose jobs--common enough that Rachel&#039;s nose job was a running joke on &lt;i&gt;Friends&lt;/i&gt;.  In some ways, this is following straight on from other racist, ethnocentric beauty standards: straight hair, minimal body and facial hair.  I agree, of course, that the invasive, permanent, and potentially injurious nature of surgery makes it that much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some ways, this sounds like an extension of the ethnic erasure that cosmetic surgery has been enacting <i>in</i> the US for a while (obviously it&#8217;s global scale is disturbing)&#8211;consider how common it is to think of Jewish women in the US getting nose jobs&#8211;common enough that Rachel&#8217;s nose job was a running joke on <i>Friends</i>.  In some ways, this is following straight on from other racist, ethnocentric beauty standards: straight hair, minimal body and facial hair.  I agree, of course, that the invasive, permanent, and potentially injurious nature of surgery makes it that much worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/11/06/the-racism-of-cosmetic-surgery/#comment-2013</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what is really sick is that there is an ideal for every part of a woman&#039;s body. It&#039;s not just &#039;I need to be thinner&#039; or &#039;I need bigger boobs,&#039; it&#039;s also wanting less arm fat, the right shaped ears, and the list keeps going. I had a girl comment to me that she thought her calves were too big, and I was left completely speechless. Have we come to the point where we have an ideal calf size?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what is really sick is that there is an ideal for every part of a woman&#8217;s body. It&#8217;s not just &#8216;I need to be thinner&#8217; or &#8216;I need bigger boobs,&#8217; it&#8217;s also wanting less arm fat, the right shaped ears, and the list keeps going. I had a girl comment to me that she thought her calves were too big, and I was left completely speechless. Have we come to the point where we have an ideal calf size?</p>
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