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	<title>Comments on: Transgender People and the Prison System</title>
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		<title>By: Woman Speaks Out Against Abuses of Trans Prisoners in Idaho : The Curvature</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/07/transgender-people-and-the-prison-system/#comment-11521</link>
		<dc:creator>Woman Speaks Out Against Abuses of Trans Prisoners in Idaho : The Curvature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are women of color; another group that both women fall into.)  They are physically assaulted and sexually abused.  And they are not only regularly falsely identified as male and housed in male prisons; very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are women of color; another group that both women fall into.)  They are physically assaulted and sexually abused.  And they are not only regularly falsely identified as male and housed in male prisons; very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: damia</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/07/transgender-people-and-the-prison-system/#comment-2548</link>
		<dc:creator>damia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvia Rivera Law Project also released a report on the experiences of trans and intersex people in men&#039;s prisons earlier this year:

http://www.srlp.org/index.php?sec=03N&amp;page=warinhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvia Rivera Law Project also released a report on the experiences of trans and intersex people in men&#8217;s prisons earlier this year:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.srlp.org/index.php?sec=03N&#038;page=warinhere" rel="nofollow">http://www.srlp.org/index.php?sec=03N&#038;page=warinhere</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/07/transgender-people-and-the-prison-system/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, Cara, I don&#039;t know either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, Cara, I don&#8217;t know either.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/07/transgender-people-and-the-prison-system/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing, Rachel.  Sadly, your description is one that I hear often.  And unfortunately, all of the cops that I have met in my life (a dozen?) were assholes.  I&#039;m sure that there has to be some good ones out there, but I sure don&#039;t know where to find them.

But I don&#039;t really think that it&#039;s an either/or question.  The system encourages this kind of behavior.  The system trains law enforcement to accept and condone this kind of behavior.  And positions of authority often do attract bad, control-freak types.  It seems to me that there are bad people/cops, and then there is also a bad system turning decent people into bad people/cops (obviously, I do not know which category your father would fall into).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, Rachel.  Sadly, your description is one that I hear often.  And unfortunately, all of the cops that I have met in my life (a dozen?) were assholes.  I&#8217;m sure that there has to be some good ones out there, but I sure don&#8217;t know where to find them.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t really think that it&#8217;s an either/or question.  The system encourages this kind of behavior.  The system trains law enforcement to accept and condone this kind of behavior.  And positions of authority often do attract bad, control-freak types.  It seems to me that there are bad people/cops, and then there is also a bad system turning decent people into bad people/cops (obviously, I do not know which category your father would fall into).</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/07/transgender-people-and-the-prison-system/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father was a state trooper for 25 years. I learned a lot from him, as every child does from their parents, but I think I really learned the most about him as a person after he retired in 2000: he is racist, homophobic, and sexist. And he was a &quot;good cop,&quot; too. 

But what I also learned after he retired (he never spoke of his job much while in it) is how little he cares for &quot;criminals.&quot; And once someone was labeled that way in his eyes, that&#039;s how they stayed - subhuman, breathing piles of shit with no values or morals, basically. And certainly no value to society. I don&#039;t think he really believes in the concept of rehabilitation. 

So when I think of prison guards, I think of my father - who was not one, but received sort of similar training - and I am not at all surprised when I find out about what they do. I think as part of their role in the prisons, they really find it necessary to dehumanize the prisoners. Otherwise, if they looked at them as &quot;people&quot; instead of &quot;numbers,&quot; they&#039;d have to understand that they&#039;re not better on the inside than the people they&#039;re locking in every night.

Asking for prison systems to ensure the well-being and safety of prisoners shouldn&#039;t be a laughable task - but considering that prisons refuse to distribute condoms in the male populations because it will &quot;encourage&quot; sexual assault, despite the fact that HIV rates in prisons are on the rise, can we really expect that they will take any extra steps toward offering protection to a “special interest” group like transpeople?  And go ahead – say the word “transgender” to a cop. Watch his face. It’s so totally disheartening. 

Of course, that’s all based on my own experience with a very small group of state troopers – my father and his friends. But I think to a certain extent one can extrapolate those characteristics a bit.

The most obvious step, in my mind, toward protection for transpeople and gay prisoners would be to institute a training course for law enforcement officials of any capacity that doesn’t condition them to think that “trans,” “gay” and “queer” are wrong. 

But of course, that’s like asking a bear to lay eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father was a state trooper for 25 years. I learned a lot from him, as every child does from their parents, but I think I really learned the most about him as a person after he retired in 2000: he is racist, homophobic, and sexist. And he was a &#8220;good cop,&#8221; too. </p>
<p>But what I also learned after he retired (he never spoke of his job much while in it) is how little he cares for &#8220;criminals.&#8221; And once someone was labeled that way in his eyes, that&#8217;s how they stayed &#8211; subhuman, breathing piles of shit with no values or morals, basically. And certainly no value to society. I don&#8217;t think he really believes in the concept of rehabilitation. </p>
<p>So when I think of prison guards, I think of my father &#8211; who was not one, but received sort of similar training &#8211; and I am not at all surprised when I find out about what they do. I think as part of their role in the prisons, they really find it necessary to dehumanize the prisoners. Otherwise, if they looked at them as &#8220;people&#8221; instead of &#8220;numbers,&#8221; they&#8217;d have to understand that they&#8217;re not better on the inside than the people they&#8217;re locking in every night.</p>
<p>Asking for prison systems to ensure the well-being and safety of prisoners shouldn&#8217;t be a laughable task &#8211; but considering that prisons refuse to distribute condoms in the male populations because it will &#8220;encourage&#8221; sexual assault, despite the fact that HIV rates in prisons are on the rise, can we really expect that they will take any extra steps toward offering protection to a “special interest” group like transpeople?  And go ahead – say the word “transgender” to a cop. Watch his face. It’s so totally disheartening. </p>
<p>Of course, that’s all based on my own experience with a very small group of state troopers – my father and his friends. But I think to a certain extent one can extrapolate those characteristics a bit.</p>
<p>The most obvious step, in my mind, toward protection for transpeople and gay prisoners would be to institute a training course for law enforcement officials of any capacity that doesn’t condition them to think that “trans,” “gay” and “queer” are wrong. </p>
<p>But of course, that’s like asking a bear to lay eggs.</p>
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