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		<title>By: Yes, Statutory Rape Is Real Rape : The Curvature</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/10/trigger-warning-10-year-old-rape-victim-probably-agreed-to-have-sex/#comment-10302</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes, Statutory Rape Is Real Rape : The Curvature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] media, as &#8220;sex.&#8221;  Even if the victim of that rape is as young as five-years-old, but even more commonly if the child has reached an age at which s/he might be displaying some pubescent attributes.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] media, as &#8220;sex.&#8221;  Even if the victim of that rape is as young as five-years-old, but even more commonly if the child has reached an age at which s/he might be displaying some pubescent attributes.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Que</title>
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		<dc:creator>Que</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the girl tried to commit suicide. Clearly it&#039;s normal for people to try to kill themselves after they&#039;ve supossedly had consensual sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the girl tried to commit suicide. Clearly it&#8217;s normal for people to try to kill themselves after they&#8217;ve supossedly had consensual sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Girl</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/10/trigger-warning-10-year-old-rape-victim-probably-agreed-to-have-sex/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a `perception&#039; (read: prejudice) that women with developmental disabilities are highly promiscuous and over sexual, I know far too many women with disabilities (white and non-white - the girl in Melbourne is white) who have been abused and had that used as an excuse to deny them justice.  The child in this case is mildly intellectually disabled, according to some news reports, combine that with the prejudice about Aboriginal women, and, well... :-(

The levels of abuse of people with developmental disability are horrifyingly high 80 % +

Also, children with congenital/developmental disabilities, are often `trained&#039; into a high level of compliance (smile even when people are hurting you, don&#039;t say no, don&#039;t argue, be a `good little cripple&#039;), as I know from my own experiences as a child with Cerebral Palsy.

More on this sort of dynamic at my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a `perception&#8217; (read: prejudice) that women with developmental disabilities are highly promiscuous and over sexual, I know far too many women with disabilities (white and non-white &#8211; the girl in Melbourne is white) who have been abused and had that used as an excuse to deny them justice.  The child in this case is mildly intellectually disabled, according to some news reports, combine that with the prejudice about Aboriginal women, and, well&#8230; :-(</p>
<p>The levels of abuse of people with developmental disability are horrifyingly high 80 % +</p>
<p>Also, children with congenital/developmental disabilities, are often `trained&#8217; into a high level of compliance (smile even when people are hurting you, don&#8217;t say no, don&#8217;t argue, be a `good little cripple&#8217;), as I know from my own experiences as a child with Cerebral Palsy.</p>
<p>More on this sort of dynamic at my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Betty.  But it&#039;s my understanding that those boys weren&#039;t all Aboriginal boys, either, which would greatly change the dynamics.  Rape cases work like this:  White boy trumps white girl.  White boy trumps black girl.  White girl trumps black boy.  Black boy trumps black girl.  And the way in which we devalue the disabled is a whole different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Betty.  But it&#8217;s my understanding that those boys weren&#8217;t all Aboriginal boys, either, which would greatly change the dynamics.  Rape cases work like this:  White boy trumps white girl.  White boy trumps black girl.  White girl trumps black boy.  Black boy trumps black girl.  And the way in which we devalue the disabled is a whole different story.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBoondoggle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/10/trigger-warning-10-year-old-rape-victim-probably-agreed-to-have-sex/#comment-2572</link>
		<dc:creator>BettyBoondoggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“There’s not a chance in hell that this ruling would have been the same if the same Aboriginal perpetrators had raped a white girl.”

I&#039;m not so sure.  This is the same country that let the group of boys who gang raped a developmentally-disabled girl, made and sold the attack as porn off with just a few years therapy.  No jail there either. COrrect me if I&#039;m wrong, but wasn&#039;t that girl white?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“There’s not a chance in hell that this ruling would have been the same if the same Aboriginal perpetrators had raped a white girl.”</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure.  This is the same country that let the group of boys who gang raped a developmentally-disabled girl, made and sold the attack as porn off with just a few years therapy.  No jail there either. COrrect me if I&#8217;m wrong, but wasn&#8217;t that girl white?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Tracy9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Tracy9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There’s not a chance in hell that this ruling would have been the same if the same Aboriginal perpetrators had raped a white girl.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NONE. NONE NONE. ABSOLUTELY NONE. If it had been a white girl, her pink cheeks and goldilocks would be on every single form of media known to humankind. The whole world would know and the ruling would get changed in a minute. 

AAAHHH, MEAN-NESS ALL AROUND!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;There’s not a chance in hell that this ruling would have been the same if the same Aboriginal perpetrators had raped a white girl.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>NONE. NONE NONE. ABSOLUTELY NONE. If it had been a white girl, her pink cheeks and goldilocks would be on every single form of media known to humankind. The whole world would know and the ruling would get changed in a minute. </p>
<p>AAAHHH, MEAN-NESS ALL AROUND!</p>
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		<title>By: Thealogian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thealogian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen this case on several feminist blogs today--I&#039;d like to compliment your breakdown and presentation of the complicated intersecting issues of race/class/colonialism without equivocating on the fact that the ruling was totally fucked! 

Also, though this is just an aside, notice how many cases of judicial asshatery on matters of rape recently have come down from the benches of women? I&#039;m wondering, are these cases just getting more attention because the justices are women (like, Ann Coulter can call for women to lose the right to vote) or is this just a coincidence? I hope its a coincidence--because if it is some kind of elaborate anti-feminist propaganda    (see feminists, women aren&#039;t better than men, etc), then damn its elaborate! And yes, when I watched &quot;Undercover Brother&quot; I did relate to Conspiracy Brother. 

Anyway, back to the case, I think that a crucial piece of this individual case that you pointed out is that class issues--particularly between the victim and the rapists--are really more complex than one might be able to grasp from an outsider&#039;s perspective (especially, since we&#039;re talking about colonized people).

Also, another thing to think about is how  the particular fetishes of the dominant culture (Anglo-Austrialians) might help to frame the &quot;who is rapable&quot; mechanism. If the perspective is that aboriginal women &quot;mature early&quot; or are always willing to have sex (think 19th C. American perspectives on Black Women), then the idea that she could consent (by virtue of her sexually mature status) trumphs the &quot;usual&quot; laws which are for white girls.    

I don&#039;t know how anyone from the judge to the court transcriptionist could sleep at night after such a case, let alone the ruling...maybe they pick up tips from George W. Bush.

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen this case on several feminist blogs today&#8211;I&#8217;d like to compliment your breakdown and presentation of the complicated intersecting issues of race/class/colonialism without equivocating on the fact that the ruling was totally fucked! </p>
<p>Also, though this is just an aside, notice how many cases of judicial asshatery on matters of rape recently have come down from the benches of women? I&#8217;m wondering, are these cases just getting more attention because the justices are women (like, Ann Coulter can call for women to lose the right to vote) or is this just a coincidence? I hope its a coincidence&#8211;because if it is some kind of elaborate anti-feminist propaganda    (see feminists, women aren&#8217;t better than men, etc), then damn its elaborate! And yes, when I watched &#8220;Undercover Brother&#8221; I did relate to Conspiracy Brother. </p>
<p>Anyway, back to the case, I think that a crucial piece of this individual case that you pointed out is that class issues&#8211;particularly between the victim and the rapists&#8211;are really more complex than one might be able to grasp from an outsider&#8217;s perspective (especially, since we&#8217;re talking about colonized people).</p>
<p>Also, another thing to think about is how  the particular fetishes of the dominant culture (Anglo-Austrialians) might help to frame the &#8220;who is rapable&#8221; mechanism. If the perspective is that aboriginal women &#8220;mature early&#8221; or are always willing to have sex (think 19th C. American perspectives on Black Women), then the idea that she could consent (by virtue of her sexually mature status) trumphs the &#8220;usual&#8221; laws which are for white girls.    </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how anyone from the judge to the court transcriptionist could sleep at night after such a case, let alone the ruling&#8230;maybe they pick up tips from George W. Bush.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBoondoggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettyBoondoggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, I&#039;m sure, while you let them free without one bit of punishment for RAPING A CHILD, they *totally* got the message that it was wrong to rape. 

Asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, I&#8217;m sure, while you let them free without one bit of punishment for RAPING A CHILD, they *totally* got the message that it was wrong to rape. </p>
<p>Asshole.</p>
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