Comments on: One Punch? Against Whom? http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/ Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:47:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: How Not to Critique Anti-Rape Campagins — The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-18293 How Not to Critique Anti-Rape Campagins — The Curvature Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:25:00 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-18293 [...] which tells women it is their responsibility to keep themselves from being raped. And sometimes, anti-violence campaigns that are directed at men really just seem to have the wrong focus. A lot of campaigns that supposedly work against gendered violence actually promote as many [...] [...] which tells women it is their responsibility to keep themselves from being raped. And sometimes, anti-violence campaigns that are directed at men really just seem to have the wrong focus. A lot of campaigns that supposedly work against gendered violence actually promote as many [...]

]]> By: Meg http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-3338 Meg Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:44:14 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-3338 Personally I say congratulations to anyone who is attempting new ways to curb any violence. This campaign is about reducing assault not specifically DV. Research shows that around 70% of victims and perpetrators of assault are male aged 17-25 and the Marcomms research shows that the most effective way to reach this target audience is through the women in their life. Personally I say congratulations to anyone who is attempting new ways to curb any violence. This campaign is about reducing assault not specifically DV. Research shows that around 70% of victims and perpetrators of assault are male aged 17-25 and the Marcomms research shows that the most effective way to reach this target audience is through the women in their life.

]]> By: RachelPhilPa http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2686 RachelPhilPa Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:31:09 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2686 Oh, u poor menz with your broken nosees, fix your problems yourself, I'm not responsible for taking care of you. Men pounding each other over "their" women - that's just an extension of violence against women - it's men's responsibility to fix. Makes me so glad I don't bother with men. Makes me think that Sleater-Kinney's song, "Little Babies" (from Dig Me Out), is so spot-on. <blockquote>Are you hungry did you eat before the show I peeled potatoes set the table washed the floor I know the others treat you rough And when you know youve had enough Youll come and see me cos you know Im always here</blockquote> Oh, u poor menz with your broken nosees, fix your problems yourself, I’m not responsible for taking care of you. Men pounding each other over “their” women – that’s just an extension of violence against women – it’s men’s responsibility to fix.

Makes me so glad I don’t bother with men.

Makes me think that Sleater-Kinney’s song, “Little Babies” (from Dig Me Out), is so spot-on.

Are you hungry did you eat before the show
I peeled potatoes set the table washed the floor
I know the others treat you rough
And when you know youve had enough
Youll come and see me cos you know
Im always here

]]> By: Mary Tracy9 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2685 Mary Tracy9 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:21:46 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2685 Well, I personally think this is THE GREAT. Next time I am in the presence of two guys beating the crap out of each other over ME, I'll make a point to stop them. Yes, I am being sarcastic. And you said it all, really. Even when it's something that affects MEN, and caused by MEN, it's blamed on WOMEN??? Are men EVER RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING? Well, I personally think this is THE GREAT. Next time I am in the presence of two guys beating the crap out of each other over ME, I’ll make a point to stop them.

Yes, I am being sarcastic.

And you said it all, really. Even when it’s something that affects MEN, and caused by MEN, it’s blamed on WOMEN???
Are men EVER RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING?

]]> By: zombie z http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2684 zombie z Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:40:09 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2684 Not too impressed with Australia lately... I'm too scared of all the killer jellyfish, deceivingly cute koalas, etc, to ever go there -- but if that weren't enough, I could "experiment" with gang-rape. Not too impressed with Australia lately…

I’m too scared of all the killer jellyfish, deceivingly cute koalas, etc, to ever go there — but if that weren’t enough, I could “experiment” with gang-rape.

]]> By: BettyBoondoggle http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2682 BettyBoondoggle Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:58:23 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2682 What baloney. It's not my job to stop men from hurting. It's THEIR job to be grown ups and stop doing it. It never ceases to amaze me that feminists get the man-hater label when its clear they have a far lower opinion of themselves. What baloney. It’s not my job to stop men from hurting. It’s THEIR job to be grown ups and stop doing it.

It never ceases to amaze me that feminists get the man-hater label when its clear they have a far lower opinion of themselves.

]]> By: Lirpa http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2680 Lirpa Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:46:14 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2680 It's too bad my wireless keyboard needs new batteries or something and makes me look like I either can't spell or don't proofread, but please ignore the typos. Thanks. :) It’s too bad my wireless keyboard needs new batteries or something and makes me look like I either can’t spell or don’t proofread, but please ignore the typos. Thanks. :)

]]> By: Lirpa http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2679 Lirpa Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:31:59 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2679 At first read, I didn't find any reason to be offended. It seemed like, Well, if the reason for the majority of physical fights are because they're supposedly impressing the woman whom the fight is about, then it's a good idea to let them know that women don't really think that throwing punches for no good reason is actually an attractive thing. So they are trying to elist women who be more vocal about this fact (although I think that most of us are already) and that maybe that will help these guys realize that what they're doing it futile. But... yeah. I get what you're saying, either way. Even if that is is the case, what I said above, men should also feel insulted by the ininuation that they're so wired to only respond to pussy and getting some that they must literally fight for it. As a woman, it's infuriating because it makes me a piece of property, and if I were a man, I'd be infuriated at the dumbing-down of who I am as a person, capable of rational thought that does't only revolve around sex and women. At first read, I didn’t find any reason to be offended. It seemed like, Well, if the reason for the majority of physical fights are because they’re supposedly impressing the woman whom the fight is about, then it’s a good idea to let them know that women don’t really think that throwing punches for no good reason is actually an attractive thing. So they are trying to elist women who be more vocal about this fact (although I think that most of us are already) and that maybe that will help these guys realize that what they’re doing it futile.

But… yeah. I get what you’re saying, either way. Even if that is is the case, what I said above, men should also feel insulted by the ininuation that they’re so wired to only respond to pussy and getting some that they must literally fight for it. As a woman, it’s infuriating because it makes me a piece of property, and if I were a man, I’d be infuriated at the dumbing-down of who I am as a person, capable of rational thought that does’t only revolve around sex and women.

]]> By: cherylp http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2678 cherylp Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:18:28 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2007/12/17/one-punch-against-whom/#comment-2678 Nope, it's not just you. This totally rubbed me the wrong way too. I have male friends who pull this kind of shit (or at least I did have back in my hometown) and if anything was going to get stopped before it started, it was me or another female friend who tried to stop it. As in, women are already trying to prevent this violence (in my experience). To spend money asking them to do so as if it's some kind of innovative plan is completely insulting. It validates the whole "men are controlled by pussy and that's just the way it is" stereotype. It feels a bit like blaming women to me, and bugs me personally because I already don't want to participate in breaking up a violent situation, but feel like I have to sometimes (especially if it's my friend who's being the asshole) - to then expect it of me to police men's behaviour is bullshit. Nope, it’s not just you. This totally rubbed me the wrong way too. I have male friends who pull this kind of shit (or at least I did have back in my hometown) and if anything was going to get stopped before it started, it was me or another female friend who tried to stop it. As in, women are already trying to prevent this violence (in my experience). To spend money asking them to do so as if it’s some kind of innovative plan is completely insulting. It validates the whole “men are controlled by pussy and that’s just the way it is” stereotype. It feels a bit like blaming women to me, and bugs me personally because I already don’t want to participate in breaking up a violent situation, but feel like I have to sometimes (especially if it’s my friend who’s being the asshole) – to then expect it of me to police men’s behaviour is bullshit.

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