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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-10894</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnetta... PEOPLE are argumentative, etc, not just women.  And discussions like these do help.  Ideas are everything- they define society.  Changing even one person&#039;s perspective is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnetta&#8230; PEOPLE are argumentative, etc, not just women.  And discussions like these do help.  Ideas are everything- they define society.  Changing even one person&#8217;s perspective is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-3036</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally do believe that she&#039;s female.  Unfortunately, a lot of women do think this way.  I&#039;ve met plenty of them, and they make me very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally do believe that she&#8217;s female.  Unfortunately, a lot of women do think this way.  I&#8217;ve met plenty of them, and they make me very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBoondoggle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>BettyBoondoggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no way Arnetta is actually female.  Or, if she is, someone gave her a lobotomy before letting her post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no way Arnetta is actually female.  Or, if she is, someone gave her a lobotomy before letting her post.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if women defend themselves against other women who are jumping up and down eagerly to gain approval from the patriarchy, we&#039;re upholding the patriarchy?  Call me confused.

Also: if you want to have a nice, rational conversation with feminists, it helps to 1. not put them on a list of horrible things with chauvinist pigs and Bush 2. not use phrases like &quot;you females&quot; and not use words like &quot;bitchy&quot; or &quot;catty.&quot;  

Also, just for the record, who is being judgmental at the moment? Hmm.  And any pro-choice person here who has &quot;judged&quot; someone else has done so because that person was using their &quot;judgments&quot; as a reason to control women&#039;s bodies and lives.  I couldn&#039;t agree with you more; being judgmental is not a good thing.  But saying things like &quot;I don&#039;t believe a woman should kill her unborn&quot; is indeed pretty damn judgmental, particularly on a thread where women have already talked about their own abortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if women defend themselves against other women who are jumping up and down eagerly to gain approval from the patriarchy, we&#8217;re upholding the patriarchy?  Call me confused.</p>
<p>Also: if you want to have a nice, rational conversation with feminists, it helps to 1. not put them on a list of horrible things with chauvinist pigs and Bush 2. not use phrases like &#8220;you females&#8221; and not use words like &#8220;bitchy&#8221; or &#8220;catty.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Also, just for the record, who is being judgmental at the moment? Hmm.  And any pro-choice person here who has &#8220;judged&#8221; someone else has done so because that person was using their &#8220;judgments&#8221; as a reason to control women&#8217;s bodies and lives.  I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more; being judgmental is not a good thing.  But saying things like &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe a woman should kill her unborn&#8221; is indeed pretty damn judgmental, particularly on a thread where women have already talked about their own abortions.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnetta</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been very interesting to read. I was almost afraid to comment... but, what the hell? So, Im against abortions. Im more like straddling the fence... but for the most part Im against them. I dont believe a woman should kill her unborn. But I dont think a raped woman should be forced to live with the product of her rape. Yes, I know you have to pick a side... either for it all the way or against it completely... but I havent decided yet... 
In response to the issue at hand, I do not feel a man should have the right to make the decision of whether or not to abort for a woman. In the perfect world, a man and woman who have decided to have sex with one another will be in loving, happy relationships where they could discuss these issues and agree upon a solution... but in my perfect world the topic of abortion wouldnt exist... neither would rapes, killings, chauvenistic(sp) pigs, feminists, or George Bush... lol 
The main thing I grapsed from this article and all of the back and forth commenting is this: Women are so concerned with how men disrespect them and hate them but then YOU FEMALES DO IT TO EACH OTHER. No wonder men try to get over on us all the time... they see we cant get along. Women are always catty, bitchy, and judgemental.... to other women. How does the bickering amongst prolifers and prochoicers really make a difference? Answer: It doesnt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been very interesting to read. I was almost afraid to comment&#8230; but, what the hell? So, Im against abortions. Im more like straddling the fence&#8230; but for the most part Im against them. I dont believe a woman should kill her unborn. But I dont think a raped woman should be forced to live with the product of her rape. Yes, I know you have to pick a side&#8230; either for it all the way or against it completely&#8230; but I havent decided yet&#8230;<br />
In response to the issue at hand, I do not feel a man should have the right to make the decision of whether or not to abort for a woman. In the perfect world, a man and woman who have decided to have sex with one another will be in loving, happy relationships where they could discuss these issues and agree upon a solution&#8230; but in my perfect world the topic of abortion wouldnt exist&#8230; neither would rapes, killings, chauvenistic(sp) pigs, feminists, or George Bush&#8230; lol<br />
The main thing I grapsed from this article and all of the back and forth commenting is this: Women are so concerned with how men disrespect them and hate them but then YOU FEMALES DO IT TO EACH OTHER. No wonder men try to get over on us all the time&#8230; they see we cant get along. Women are always catty, bitchy, and judgemental&#8230;. to other women. How does the bickering amongst prolifers and prochoicers really make a difference? Answer: It doesnt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lepidopteryx</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-2977</link>
		<dc:creator>lepidopteryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My answer is: For a illegal abortion, she should stand trial and let a jury of her peers judge her.&quot;

So if she lives in a state where abortion is only legal if the mother&#039;s life is threatened, but she and her OB/GYN agree that she shouldn&#039;t have the baby for other reasons (even if that reason is simply that she doesn&#039;t want it), and she has an abortion a week after peeing on a stick, she and her doctor should be put on trial? You&#039;ve gotta be fucking kidding me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My answer is: For a illegal abortion, she should stand trial and let a jury of her peers judge her.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if she lives in a state where abortion is only legal if the mother&#8217;s life is threatened, but she and her OB/GYN agree that she shouldn&#8217;t have the baby for other reasons (even if that reason is simply that she doesn&#8217;t want it), and she has an abortion a week after peeing on a stick, she and her doctor should be put on trial? You&#8217;ve gotta be fucking kidding me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dette</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-2973</link>
		<dc:creator>Dette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the sentence B I was in a great hurry.  It was suppose to say by the way I didn&#039;t say everyone did I.  
Anger is yours, take imbrace, or do whatever.  I was just like you, and said the same things you are saying, then one day it all changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the sentence B I was in a great hurry.  It was suppose to say by the way I didn&#8217;t say everyone did I.<br />
Anger is yours, take imbrace, or do whatever.  I was just like you, and said the same things you are saying, then one day it all changed.</p>
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		<title>By: lepidopteryx</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-2967</link>
		<dc:creator>lepidopteryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make it crystal clear, the only regret that I have is thar my doctor was negligent in not telling me that oral antiibiotics interfere with the body&#039;s ability to absorb other oral medications. 
I have no regrets over the abortion itself. If I had wanted another child, I wouldn&#039;t have been on contraceptives in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make it crystal clear, the only regret that I have is thar my doctor was negligent in not telling me that oral antiibiotics interfere with the body&#8217;s ability to absorb other oral medications.<br />
I have no regrets over the abortion itself. If I had wanted another child, I wouldn&#8217;t have been on contraceptives in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBoondoggle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-2965</link>
		<dc:creator>BettyBoondoggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your anger is still showing B and the name calling is still there, and yes I wouldn’t like anyone to force there will on me either.&quot;

I will call you whatever I like as long as you act like one. If you dish it out, expect to take it. I respect Cara and if she tells/asks me to tone I down, I&#039;d do so gladly.  If *she* does. 

Of course you don&#039;t want anyone to force their will on you.  So why is it okay for you (meaning anti-choicers) to do it to others?

I don&#039;t pretend not to be angry - as Cara already explained this is an intensely personal issue to women.  If you are not one, you have no way of understanding the stakes. Yes, I am angry that there&#039;s a large crop of morons who pretend to care about life - until the kid&#039;s actually born, and who don&#039;t care at all about women. I do not apologize for the anger.  I say, if one is not angry, they are a fool.  

&quot;the way I didn’t say everyone did I. &quot;

This sentence makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your anger is still showing B and the name calling is still there, and yes I wouldn’t like anyone to force there will on me either.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will call you whatever I like as long as you act like one. If you dish it out, expect to take it. I respect Cara and if she tells/asks me to tone I down, I&#8217;d do so gladly.  If *she* does. </p>
<p>Of course you don&#8217;t want anyone to force their will on you.  So why is it okay for you (meaning anti-choicers) to do it to others?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend not to be angry &#8211; as Cara already explained this is an intensely personal issue to women.  If you are not one, you have no way of understanding the stakes. Yes, I am angry that there&#8217;s a large crop of morons who pretend to care about life &#8211; until the kid&#8217;s actually born, and who don&#8217;t care at all about women. I do not apologize for the anger.  I say, if one is not angry, they are a fool.  </p>
<p>&#8220;the way I didn’t say everyone did I. &#8221;</p>
<p>This sentence makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dette</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/07/whose-abortion/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>Dette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your anger is still showing B and the name calling is still there, and yes I wouldn&#039;t like anyone to force there will on me either. By the way I didn&#039;t say everyone did I. For the record a coward is what by your difinition and how do I apply?
Cara I am sorry if I generalized everyone and judge them on nothing.  I guess I still have learning to do.  I have forgiven myself for doing the best I could with what I had.  Yet I do wonder what could have been and that is why things are different now, with me that is. Again thanks for taking the time to respond.  I have to ready to go to my second job, now.  Seems things haven&#039;t change much over the years as far as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your anger is still showing B and the name calling is still there, and yes I wouldn&#8217;t like anyone to force there will on me either. By the way I didn&#8217;t say everyone did I. For the record a coward is what by your difinition and how do I apply?<br />
Cara I am sorry if I generalized everyone and judge them on nothing.  I guess I still have learning to do.  I have forgiven myself for doing the best I could with what I had.  Yet I do wonder what could have been and that is why things are different now, with me that is. Again thanks for taking the time to respond.  I have to ready to go to my second job, now.  Seems things haven&#8217;t change much over the years as far as that.</p>
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