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	<title>Comments on: Ithaca College: Marijuana gets you fired.  Rape, not so much.</title>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student at Ithaca College.  Basically, it all started with a public safety alert sent out to every student that a rape had been committed on campus by a stranger (this rape was not mentioned in this blog).  After that the entire campus was up in arms (&quot;how could something so horrible happen HERE?!&quot;) and there was a community meeting on &quot;what to do about campus safety now that rapists are on campus!&quot; And it was at this meeting that several women &quot;came out&quot; as being rape survivors, and that their rapes were committed on campus, one being the women mentioned in the blog.  She had told public safety when it happened, in 2006, but told hundreds of her peers publicly at this meeting.  At the time, the RA assailant had already been accused, and was happily continuing to enjoy his position as an RA.

Earlier that school year, in September 2007, I was raped.  I reported it to Public Safety, but because it happened at an off campus event and I did not know the attacker, they did nothing, and certainly did not report the incident to the college community as they did on the February rape that started all this mess talked about on the blog.  I never came forward to the campus community, was not then and still am not now ready for that.  However, I did help SAFER and IC Feminists with their efforts in changing the policies.  This was a little over a year ago.  Funny how people seem to forget, everyone was so up in arms about this last school year, but no one talks about it anymore.  Another rape was reported this year, but even our newspaper failed to follow up on it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student at Ithaca College.  Basically, it all started with a public safety alert sent out to every student that a rape had been committed on campus by a stranger (this rape was not mentioned in this blog).  After that the entire campus was up in arms (&#8220;how could something so horrible happen HERE?!&#8221;) and there was a community meeting on &#8220;what to do about campus safety now that rapists are on campus!&#8221; And it was at this meeting that several women &#8220;came out&#8221; as being rape survivors, and that their rapes were committed on campus, one being the women mentioned in the blog.  She had told public safety when it happened, in 2006, but told hundreds of her peers publicly at this meeting.  At the time, the RA assailant had already been accused, and was happily continuing to enjoy his position as an RA.</p>
<p>Earlier that school year, in September 2007, I was raped.  I reported it to Public Safety, but because it happened at an off campus event and I did not know the attacker, they did nothing, and certainly did not report the incident to the college community as they did on the February rape that started all this mess talked about on the blog.  I never came forward to the campus community, was not then and still am not now ready for that.  However, I did help SAFER and IC Feminists with their efforts in changing the policies.  This was a little over a year ago.  Funny how people seem to forget, everyone was so up in arms about this last school year, but no one talks about it anymore.  Another rape was reported this year, but even our newspaper failed to follow up on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what you mean, Christopher.  The article says that this particular rape happened in 2006, and everything I&#039;ve read has suggested that the rapist has graduated.  But of course if it happened this year, I&#039;d be just as appalled and would be calling for the RA to be fired and expelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean, Christopher.  The article says that this particular rape happened in 2006, and everything I&#8217;ve read has suggested that the rapist has graduated.  But of course if it happened this year, I&#8217;d be just as appalled and would be calling for the RA to be fired and expelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cara: this happened this school year. The RA is still a student and an RA at IC. What do you think now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cara: this happened this school year. The RA is still a student and an RA at IC. What do you think now???</p>
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		<title>By: maatnofret</title>
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		<dc:creator>maatnofret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell a lawsuit. Allowing someone to be an RA when he has a known history of assault is negligent at best. 

Provided, of course, that damages can be proven and the statute of limitations hasn&#039;t run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I smell a lawsuit. Allowing someone to be an RA when he has a known history of assault is negligent at best. </p>
<p>Provided, of course, that damages can be proven and the statute of limitations hasn&#8217;t run.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly none of this surprises me, nor does it surprise me that a female director came to the RA&#039;s defense.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s disassociation or trying to fit into the &quot;Boy&#039;s Club&quot; that causes women in positions of power to be so reluctant to penalize sex offenders.  When I was assaulted in a hospital it was a female psychologist who lobbied the most enthusiastically to keep the perpetrator on the ward, despite the fact that he was an admitted sexual predator and had numerous complaints against him from the other female patients.  (Another female staff member actually gave me the &quot;You carry yourself like a victim&quot; speech!)  I felt betrayed enough when the administration refused to take any action when I assumed it was a panel of &quot;Old White Men&quot; weighing in on the decision.  To later discover that a woman left so many other women tied like lambs to a stake just blew my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly none of this surprises me, nor does it surprise me that a female director came to the RA&#8217;s defense.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s disassociation or trying to fit into the &#8220;Boy&#8217;s Club&#8221; that causes women in positions of power to be so reluctant to penalize sex offenders.  When I was assaulted in a hospital it was a female psychologist who lobbied the most enthusiastically to keep the perpetrator on the ward, despite the fact that he was an admitted sexual predator and had numerous complaints against him from the other female patients.  (Another female staff member actually gave me the &#8220;You carry yourself like a victim&#8221; speech!)  I felt betrayed enough when the administration refused to take any action when I assumed it was a panel of &#8220;Old White Men&#8221; weighing in on the decision.  To later discover that a woman left so many other women tied like lambs to a stake just blew my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: roses</title>
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		<dc:creator>roses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In so many ways we’ve improved so much over time, but we’ve obviously gone downhill since de Toqueville complimented the U.S. on punishing rape with the death penalty ... at least people took it seriously.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Rape was a different crime then, though.  Rape was... well, let&#039;s let Senator Douglas Henry explain it for us: &quot;Rape, when I was learning these things, was the violation of a chaste woman, against her will, by some party not her spouse.&quot;  Rape of a chaste woman was taken seriously because raping somebody&#039;s chaste daughter or wife was considered damaging somebody else&#039;s property.  If she wasn&#039;t chaste, however, she was already &quot;damaged goods&quot;, so it wouldn&#039;t matter if she was raped.  And of course, a husband who raped his wife was just treating his property as he saw fit.  The fact that the woman was harmed by rape was not why it was illegal.  So I think we have come forward, not backward from then, even if there&#039;s still a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In so many ways we’ve improved so much over time, but we’ve obviously gone downhill since de Toqueville complimented the U.S. on punishing rape with the death penalty &#8230; at least people took it seriously.</p></blockquote>
<p>Rape was a different crime then, though.  Rape was&#8230; well, let&#8217;s let Senator Douglas Henry explain it for us: &#8220;Rape, when I was learning these things, was the violation of a chaste woman, against her will, by some party not her spouse.&#8221;  Rape of a chaste woman was taken seriously because raping somebody&#8217;s chaste daughter or wife was considered damaging somebody else&#8217;s property.  If she wasn&#8217;t chaste, however, she was already &#8220;damaged goods&#8221;, so it wouldn&#8217;t matter if she was raped.  And of course, a husband who raped his wife was just treating his property as he saw fit.  The fact that the woman was harmed by rape was not why it was illegal.  So I think we have come forward, not backward from then, even if there&#8217;s still a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Jen.  I live about 2 hours away from Ithaca, and though I&#039;ve only been there a couple of times, I like it a lot.  It&#039;s definitely my kind of town.

As you said, this kind of thing can happen anywhere.  But that it happened in a very liberal place like Ithaca does indeed help to drive that message home. On the other hand, maybe it should almost be expected because Ithaca is such a big college town.  The sad thing is that we even have to have a conversation about where we can and can&#039;t &quot;expect&quot; this kind of horrible thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Jen.  I live about 2 hours away from Ithaca, and though I&#8217;ve only been there a couple of times, I like it a lot.  It&#8217;s definitely my kind of town.</p>
<p>As you said, this kind of thing can happen anywhere.  But that it happened in a very liberal place like Ithaca does indeed help to drive that message home. On the other hand, maybe it should almost be expected because Ithaca is such a big college town.  The sad thing is that we even have to have a conversation about where we can and can&#8217;t &#8220;expect&#8221; this kind of horrible thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i think is most frightening (and most telling) about this story is the location of it.

Ithaca isn&#039;t some tiny little rural town in the middle of some state in the deep south where, sadly enough, it might not be surprising to hear this kind of story.
Ithaca is known for being a little bubble of progressives in the otherwise pretty conservative region of central NY.
the college is pretty insular, but not so insular that it&#039;s got a much different reputation than the town.

i can&#039;t say i&#039;m surprised, of course.  but i think it says a lot that this perfect example of the rape culture happened in this place that&#039;s supposed to be such a bubble of progressive safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i think is most frightening (and most telling) about this story is the location of it.</p>
<p>Ithaca isn&#8217;t some tiny little rural town in the middle of some state in the deep south where, sadly enough, it might not be surprising to hear this kind of story.<br />
Ithaca is known for being a little bubble of progressives in the otherwise pretty conservative region of central NY.<br />
the college is pretty insular, but not so insular that it&#8217;s got a much different reputation than the town.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t say i&#8217;m surprised, of course.  but i think it says a lot that this perfect example of the rape culture happened in this place that&#8217;s supposed to be such a bubble of progressive safety.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...It has been statistically proven that 80something% of people who are sexually assaulted not only know, but feel close to and trust their abuser.  What the hell is this college thinking?  Are they living in Republican Propaganda Land?  &quot;Well we know that you &quot;claim&quot; this person raped you but hey, you knew the person so you had it coming!&quot;  I also read a few times that while being busted for possession will undoubtedly land you in jail, if you are convicted of rape or any sexual assault you&#039;re more likely to get parole and community service over jail time.  When you look at cases like these (which sadly, are the majority of these cases) it&#039;s really no wonder that sex crimes are the most under reported crime today and when victims do report their abuse they are just revictimized for &quot;letting it happen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;It has been statistically proven that 80something% of people who are sexually assaulted not only know, but feel close to and trust their abuser.  What the hell is this college thinking?  Are they living in Republican Propaganda Land?  &#8220;Well we know that you &#8220;claim&#8221; this person raped you but hey, you knew the person so you had it coming!&#8221;  I also read a few times that while being busted for possession will undoubtedly land you in jail, if you are convicted of rape or any sexual assault you&#8217;re more likely to get parole and community service over jail time.  When you look at cases like these (which sadly, are the majority of these cases) it&#8217;s really no wonder that sex crimes are the most under reported crime today and when victims do report their abuse they are just revictimized for &#8220;letting it happen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When I found the story through SAFER and saw the headline “Because smoking pot is worse than raping someone,” I thought that the two had to be slightly less related. Like, perhaps, that someone else had lost their job for possessing pot a few years ago, but now the rapist gets to keep his.&lt;/blockquote&gt; That was my thought on reading your headline, too. This whose thing is so fucked up. When I started reading your blog, I thought you were pushing it with all your claims about &quot;rape culture,&quot; but it&#039;s really just true: apparently our culture really just is O.K. with rape, as long as the word &quot;rape&quot; itself isn&#039;t used. (And when the word &quot;rape&quot; is used, the objection is to the use of the word, not to whatever act prompted it.) I don&#039;t get it. In so many ways we&#039;ve improved so much over time, but we&#039;ve obviously gone downhill since de Toqueville complimented the U.S. on punishing rape with the death penalty. (Not that I support the death penalty for this or any other crime, but at least people took it seriously. What happened?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When I found the story through SAFER and saw the headline “Because smoking pot is worse than raping someone,” I thought that the two had to be slightly less related. Like, perhaps, that someone else had lost their job for possessing pot a few years ago, but now the rapist gets to keep his.</p></blockquote>
<p> That was my thought on reading your headline, too. This whose thing is so fucked up. When I started reading your blog, I thought you were pushing it with all your claims about &#8220;rape culture,&#8221; but it&#8217;s really just true: apparently our culture really just is O.K. with rape, as long as the word &#8220;rape&#8221; itself isn&#8217;t used. (And when the word &#8220;rape&#8221; is used, the objection is to the use of the word, not to whatever act prompted it.) I don&#8217;t get it. In so many ways we&#8217;ve improved so much over time, but we&#8217;ve obviously gone downhill since de Toqueville complimented the U.S. on punishing rape with the death penalty. (Not that I support the death penalty for this or any other crime, but at least people took it seriously. What happened?)</p>
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