Comments on: And here I was thinking that we should demand structural change http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/ Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:40:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Heather http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3515 Heather Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:50:31 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3515 "Women Don't Ask" is probably the best book I've read to help be do anythign more efficiently when it comes to work and salary. Misquoted or not, I'm not a fan of the flirting 'strategy.' Do people tell men to flirt their way to become CEO? I don't think so. “Women Don’t Ask” is probably the best book I’ve read to help be do anythign more efficiently when it comes to work and salary. Misquoted or not, I’m not a fan of the flirting ‘strategy.’ Do people tell men to flirt their way to become CEO? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Kristen http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3511 Kristen Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:07:36 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3511 Okay. To clarify, I skimmed this book at my local Borders at lunch. I did find a number of her "techniques" distasteful, stereotypical, and somewhat condescending (to men ironically). Her stories were interesting and I could relate, but its much like all the other "empowerment" books for women...useless. So I'm now taking bets on how long before someone sends this to me. The over/under is two weeks. Okay.

To clarify, I skimmed this book at my local Borders at lunch. I did find a number of her “techniques” distasteful, stereotypical, and somewhat condescending (to men ironically). Her stories were interesting and I could relate, but its much like all the other “empowerment” books for women…useless.

So I’m now taking bets on how long before someone sends this to me. The over/under is two weeks.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3505 Cara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:14:40 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3505 Oh, and you know what irks the shit out of me? Stating an opinion and then refusing to back it up with an actual argument. You can think I'm "misguided," but at least I've stood by my opinion and been willing to argue it, instead of expecting everyone to believe what I said just becuse I said it. Oh, and you know what irks the shit out of me? Stating an opinion and then refusing to back it up with an actual argument. You can think I’m “misguided,” but at least I’ve stood by my opinion and been willing to argue it, instead of expecting everyone to believe what I said just becuse I said it.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3504 Cara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:12:48 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3504 Okay, Realist, well I'm not talking about the books. I think it was pretty clear in the post that I haven't read the books and was commenting on the article itself. So you can talk about the books, but I'm talking about Ms. DiSesa's representation of her own work. If this is how the author chooses to portray her book, people can hardly be blamed for assuming that it's sexist crap that they don't want to read. Her remarks sure as hell aren't going to get me to buy it. So hey, maybe the book is great. But if that's the case, she sure as hell needs some help with describing what is in it. Okay, Realist, well I’m not talking about the books. I think it was pretty clear in the post that I haven’t read the books and was commenting on the article itself. So you can talk about the books, but I’m talking about Ms. DiSesa’s representation of her own work. If this is how the author chooses to portray her book, people can hardly be blamed for assuming that it’s sexist crap that they don’t want to read. Her remarks sure as hell aren’t going to get me to buy it. So hey, maybe the book is great. But if that’s the case, she sure as hell needs some help with describing what is in it.

]]> By: Realist http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3502 Realist Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:39:56 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3502 I'd quote the whole book if I could as opposed to taking random quotes out of context. You know what irks the shit out of me. MISGUIDED OPINIONS. Read the book and then we'll talk I’d quote the whole book if I could as opposed to taking random quotes out of context.

You know what irks the shit out of me.

MISGUIDED OPINIONS.

Read the book and then we’ll talk

]]> By: Kristen http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3500 Kristen Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3500 Books like these (which my cousins invariably send me) always irk the shit out of me. I prefer my grandmother's advice..."Be yourself and to hell with the consequences." That advice has gotten me two graduate degrees, a job that I love, and this year at least a very large bonus. Perhaps I should write a book... ;) Books like these (which my cousins invariably send me) always irk the shit out of me. I prefer my grandmother’s advice…”Be yourself and to hell with the consequences.” That advice has gotten me two graduate degrees, a job that I love, and this year at least a very large bonus. Perhaps I should write a book… ;)

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3499 Cara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:10:53 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3499 Uh huh. And you explain the quotes . . . how? Uh huh. And you explain the quotes . . . how?

]]> By: Realist http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3498 Realist Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:56:00 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3498 Have you read the books? or just Harry Hurt's stunted book report? Sorry, but Harry Hurt apart from being a pathetic writer is a man barely in touch with the issues that we women face in the workplace. I read Seducing the Boys Club and have a few things to say. As a 41 year old woman in a boys club, it's a must-read....it's smart, insightful and witty. Clearly Harry Hurt doesn't have a sense of humor. But mine is intact Ms. DiSesa's book does not propagate sleeping your way to the top, nor flirting your way to the top. It does not pretend men are dumb or stupid or that women don't have brains. For Heavens. read the book and form an opinion. Have you read the books? or just Harry Hurt’s stunted book report?

Sorry, but Harry Hurt apart from being a pathetic writer is a man barely in touch with the issues that we women face in the workplace.

I read Seducing the Boys Club and have a few things to say. As a 41 year old woman in a boys club, it’s a must-read….it’s smart, insightful and witty. Clearly Harry Hurt doesn’t have a sense of humor. But mine is intact

Ms. DiSesa’s book does not propagate sleeping your way to the top, nor flirting your way to the top. It does not pretend men are dumb or stupid or that women don’t have brains.

For Heavens. read the book and form an opinion.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3496 Cara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:22:26 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3496 You're very gracious . . . and that does make me feel a bit better. :) You’re very gracious . . . and that does make me feel a bit better. :)

]]> By: Melanie http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3494 Melanie Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:52:18 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/02/18/and-here-i-was-thinking-that-we-should-demand-structural-change/#comment-3494 Lol, didn't think so. Well, s*** happens, eh? Good post anyway. Lol, didn’t think so. Well, s*** happens, eh? Good post anyway.

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