Comments on: Pregnant Women and Drug Addicts: They’re People, Too. http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:28:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Judge Bars Woman From Having Children : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-7566 Judge Bars Woman From Having Children : The Curvature Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:32:14 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-7566 [...] use, particularly for women of color, low-income women, women with disabilities, and women with criminal histories and/or drug addictions. Welfare has at time included conditions that its recipients not have any more [...] [...] use, particularly for women of color, low-income women, women with disabilities, and women with criminal histories and/or drug addictions. Welfare has at time included conditions that its recipients not have any more [...]

]]> By: lionheart http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-6789 lionheart Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:27:22 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-6789 wow, force women in jail if they are pregnant and addicted to meth? I don't think this is truly an answer to the current problem. wow, force women in jail if they are pregnant and addicted to meth? I don’t think this is truly an answer to the current problem.

]]> By: Lora http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-5264 Lora Thu, 29 May 2008 18:55:53 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-5264 Yes I do agree that it is not just the Meth drug that should be pointed out! All types of drugs are very harmful not just to the adult but to the child as well. Forcing the mother to a rehab is not the ultimate solution for the situation. Putting the mother under more stress will put the baby at a great risk. Yes there could be major health/nutrition risks that the mother and baby will endure but simply suggesting a well selected rehab clinic for the mother would enable her to want to receive the help that is needed. She has a choice to make not ours! Lora http://www.drug-rehab.ca/ Yes I do agree that it is not just the Meth drug that should be pointed out! All types of drugs are very harmful not just to the adult but to the child as well. Forcing the mother to a rehab is not the ultimate solution for the situation. Putting the mother under more stress will put the baby at a great risk. Yes there could be major health/nutrition risks that the mother and baby will endure but simply suggesting a well selected rehab clinic for the mother would enable her to want to receive the help that is needed.

She has a choice to make not ours!

Lora
http://www.drug-rehab.ca/

]]> By: Steve Newton http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3663 Steve Newton Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:15:18 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3663 Cara, I was so impressed with this one (as I am with a lot of your work) that I brought it across to my readers at DE Libertarian. Hope I did it justice. http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-both-honest-libertarianism-and.html Cara,
I was so impressed with this one (as I am with a lot of your work) that I brought it across to my readers at DE Libertarian. Hope I did it justice.

http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-both-honest-libertarianism-and.html

]]> By: Jessica http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3660 Jessica Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:06:38 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3660 Thank you Cara for posting about this! You're right, it is *much* more difficult to argue to others that even women whose choices they don't agree with should have the same autonomy and rights. This is especially difficult in the context of drug addiction, which is so hugely misunderstood by society. Anyway, I like the way you approached the topic from a social justice standpoint. Due to the extreme politicization and frightening attack on abortion rights, it's way too easy these days to get caught up in the choice/anti-choice fervor and forget to address the bigger picture. Thank you Cara for posting about this! You’re right, it is *much* more difficult to argue to others that even women whose choices they don’t agree with should have the same autonomy and rights. This is especially difficult in the context of drug addiction, which is so hugely misunderstood by society.

Anyway, I like the way you approached the topic from a social justice standpoint. Due to the extreme politicization and frightening attack on abortion rights, it’s way too easy these days to get caught up in the choice/anti-choice fervor and forget to address the bigger picture.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3659 Cara Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:59:04 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3659 What exactly happens to a woman at the point of pregnancy that makes her unable to decide for herself when she could before implantation? Or are you one of those few people I referenced who think that we should drive around to the houses of <i>all</i> drug-users, steal them away in the middle of the night and lock them up until they accept the "help" we're forcing down their throats and which they really have no choice in taking if they'd ever like to see their homes again? What exactly happens to a woman at the point of pregnancy that makes her unable to decide for herself when she could before implantation? Or are you one of those few people I referenced who think that we should drive around to the houses of all drug-users, steal them away in the middle of the night and lock them up until they accept the “help” we’re forcing down their throats and which they really have no choice in taking if they’d ever like to see their homes again?

]]> By: rainbow http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3658 rainbow Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:04:50 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3658 They are people too, they have a harmful addiction and can´t decide for themselves. They are people too, they have a harmful addiction and can´t decide for themselves.

]]> By: Daisy http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3655 Daisy Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:19:32 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3655 I wrote about one of these cases, also, locally: <a href="http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2008/02/mother-of-stillborn-baby-charged-with.html" rel="nofollow">Mother of stillborn baby charged with homicide</a> (Cocaine, not meth.) I wrote about one of these cases, also, locally:

Mother of stillborn baby charged with homicide

(Cocaine, not meth.)

]]> By: Feminist Avatar http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3653 Feminist Avatar Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:19:48 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/2008/03/03/pregnant-women-and-drug-addicts-theyre-people-too/#comment-3653 It's a bit weird to pick on just meth addicts. What about heroin, crack, bipolar medication, cannabis, alcohol, caffeine, paracetamol, mouldy cheeses... 'users'? I mean I get what you're saying about rising numbers of meth addicts, but if it's about protecting the foetus, as far as I was aware the risks of using meth are not subtantively different from other hard drugs. Weird logic to pick on one (not that I think this sort of legislation is a good thing at all). It’s a bit weird to pick on just meth addicts. What about heroin, crack, bipolar medication, cannabis, alcohol, caffeine, paracetamol, mouldy cheeses… ‘users’?

I mean I get what you’re saying about rising numbers of meth addicts, but if it’s about protecting the foetus, as far as I was aware the risks of using meth are not subtantively different from other hard drugs. Weird logic to pick on one (not that I think this sort of legislation is a good thing at all).

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