Comments on: Rape Jokes Taken To Whole New Level http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:52:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Why Rape Jokes Aren’t Funny « Gallivant by POPPY GALLICO http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-14046 Why Rape Jokes Aren’t Funny « Gallivant by POPPY GALLICO Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:07:37 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-14046 [...] ‘why rape jokes aren’t funny‘.  You really don’t need to take my word for it, when so many other amazing, strong feminists have written about it.  (warning: some are [...] [...] ‘why rape jokes aren’t funny‘.  You really don’t need to take my word for it, when so many other amazing, strong feminists have written about it.  (warning: some are [...]

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4818 Cara Mon, 12 May 2008 13:33:24 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4818 Not that I've seen, Hello. And I can't say that I'm surprised about her not coming forward. I think that few would. Not that I’ve seen, Hello. And I can’t say that I’m surprised about her not coming forward. I think that few would.

]]> By: Hello http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4816 Hello Mon, 12 May 2008 12:50:16 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4816 Has the woman on stage made any comment till now? Has the woman on stage made any comment till now?

]]> By: Jen http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4812 Jen Mon, 12 May 2008 05:28:21 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4812 I'm not surprised in the slightest that Vegas is suing. I think he's probably shocked that anyone would dare regard him as 'not a nice guy'. I'm interested to see what his comments are, though: if he uses the phrase 'it was a joke' at any point, I intend to start a letter-writing campaign. I don't want to have to see that man ever again. As an English woman who attends numerous stand-up gigs, I can tell you that had she refused at any point, both Vegas and the whole audience would have turned on her. Any stand-up will turn on someone who is disrupting their routine, and generally speaking, stand-up audiences like cruelty. Horrible but true. Also, it drives me insane when people say "She knew what she was in for, sitting in the front row of one of his gigs." Even if they're idiots who think British law doesn't apply on a stage (which some people do seem to be arguing...), everyone who attended the gig has said that Vegas was not listed as a performer and was brought out as a 'surprise'. I don't think anything will happen. Whether or not the rape allegation is disputed, the girl won't testify because she knows damn well she'll be ripped to shreds in the courtroom and in the media, and Vegas won't want to pursue it because, sadly, this whole thing will be forgotten shortly. (Sorry about the length - this story has made me so damn mad.) I’m not surprised in the slightest that Vegas is suing. I think he’s probably shocked that anyone would dare regard him as ‘not a nice guy’. I’m interested to see what his comments are, though: if he uses the phrase ‘it was a joke’ at any point, I intend to start a letter-writing campaign. I don’t want to have to see that man ever again.

As an English woman who attends numerous stand-up gigs, I can tell you that had she refused at any point, both Vegas and the whole audience would have turned on her. Any stand-up will turn on someone who is disrupting their routine, and generally speaking, stand-up audiences like cruelty. Horrible but true. Also, it drives me insane when people say “She knew what she was in for, sitting in the front row of one of his gigs.” Even if they’re idiots who think British law doesn’t apply on a stage (which some people do seem to be arguing…), everyone who attended the gig has said that Vegas was not listed as a performer and was brought out as a ’surprise’.

I don’t think anything will happen. Whether or not the rape allegation is disputed, the girl won’t testify because she knows damn well she’ll be ripped to shreds in the courtroom and in the media, and Vegas won’t want to pursue it because, sadly, this whole thing will be forgotten shortly.

(Sorry about the length – this story has made me so damn mad.)

]]> By: bastard.logic http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4809 bastard.logic Mon, 12 May 2008 01:34:53 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4809 <strong>Memo To Johnny Vegas v2.0...</strong> by matttbastard Putting aside the parsing over the meaning of ‘is’, rape (yes, rape) STILL ISN’T FUCKING FUNNY. H/t Feministing Recommend this post at Progressive Bloggers ...... Memo To Johnny Vegas v2.0…

by matttbastard

Putting aside the parsing over the meaning of ‘is’, rape (yes, rape) STILL ISN’T FUCKING FUNNY.
H/t Feministing
Recommend this post at Progressive Bloggers
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]]> By: “A Complete Travesty of Justice” : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4796 “A Complete Travesty of Justice” : The Curvature Sun, 11 May 2008 20:57:40 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4796 [...] I’ve been hearing a hell of a lot about “real rape,” About how using the word “rape” to describe a silly [...] [...] I’ve been hearing a hell of a lot about “real rape,” About how using the word “rape” to describe a silly [...]

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4777 Cara Sat, 10 May 2008 00:16:05 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4777 <a href="http://www.chortle.co.uk/features/2008/05/04/6732/johnny_vegas_manhandled_me?rss" rel="nofollow">And this guy describes "groping" and acknowledges the threat Vegas made to the woman.</a> And this guy describes “groping” and acknowledges the threat Vegas made to the woman.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4776 Cara Sat, 10 May 2008 00:13:28 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4776 Are you referring to <a href="http://dessau.thisislondon.co.uk/2008/04/index.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>? Because if so, he also says that Vegas climbed on top of her and groped her, giving no indication that he asked the woman whether or not she was okay with this. Which is precisely what I asked you to refute, since you're insisting that no sexual assault took place. So try again. Of course, if you want to argue that climbing on top of a woman and groping her without consent is <i>not</i> sexual assault, we're done here. Are you referring to this? Because if so, he also says that Vegas climbed on top of her and groped her, giving no indication that he asked the woman whether or not she was okay with this.

Which is precisely what I asked you to refute, since you’re insisting that no sexual assault took place. So try again. Of course, if you want to argue that climbing on top of a woman and groping her without consent is not sexual assault, we’re done here.

]]> By: Nick http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4774 Nick Sat, 10 May 2008 00:04:38 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4774 Just had a quick goolge of my own. The reviewer from the Evening Standard mentions the incident and the report that appeared in the Guardian; however, states that the main concern was for the fact that Vegas is so fat. Other reviews written by those present, such as the Chortle review, fail to have even noticed anything untoward! Chortle describes the comedy as uncomfortable, which Vegas often is. The reviewer describes the incident as a depraved disney fantasy but makes no mention of anything happening that overstepped the mark - it's not clear whether this review was published before or after the report in the Guardian appeared, but there is no mention of that report in the Chortle review. Just had a quick goolge of my own. The reviewer from the Evening Standard mentions the incident and the report that appeared in the Guardian; however, states that the main concern was for the fact that Vegas is so fat. Other reviews written by those present, such as the Chortle review, fail to have even noticed anything untoward! Chortle describes the comedy as uncomfortable, which Vegas often is. The reviewer describes the incident as a depraved disney fantasy but makes no mention of anything happening that overstepped the mark – it’s not clear whether this review was published before or after the report in the Guardian appeared, but there is no mention of that report in the Chortle review.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/01/rape-jokes-taken-to-whole-new-level/#comment-4773 Cara Fri, 09 May 2008 23:44:57 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=706#comment-4773 <blockquote>Cara, maybe you’ve misunderstood the way these things work. If somebody wants to make an allegation then it is for them to prove (either beyond reasonable doubt in the criminal courts or on the balance of probabilities in the civil courts) that the allegation is true. It is not for the defendant to prove that they are innocent!</blockquote> Yeah Nick, I'm well aware of how the legal system works. You're the one running around saying that you have evidence that I am wrong. I've produced numerous links -- including the one that you yourself just put up for absolutely no apparent reason. If you're not going to bother to back up your stance, I'm not going to let any more of your comments through. The end.

Cara, maybe you’ve misunderstood the way these things work. If somebody wants to make an allegation then it is for them to prove (either beyond reasonable doubt in the criminal courts or on the balance of probabilities in the civil courts) that the allegation is true. It is not for the defendant to prove that they are innocent!

Yeah Nick, I’m well aware of how the legal system works. You’re the one running around saying that you have evidence that I am wrong. I’ve produced numerous links — including the one that you yourself just put up for absolutely no apparent reason. If you’re not going to bother to back up your stance, I’m not going to let any more of your comments through. The end.

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