Comments on: On “Real Rape” and Rape Apologists http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:34:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: University of the Pacific Says Date Rape is Not Rape : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-12552 University of the Pacific Says Date Rape is Not Rape : The Curvature Sat, 30 May 2009 19:33:03 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-12552 [...] of rape and twisted it into a hierarchy.  Yet again, we’re back to the concept of “real” rape and the idea that most rapes don’t deserve the label.  Now, we have two different classes [...] [...] of rape and twisted it into a hierarchy.  Yet again, we’re back to the concept of “real” rape and the idea that most rapes don’t deserve the label.  Now, we have two different classes [...]

]]> By: On Appeasement « The Radical Notion http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-11364 On Appeasement « The Radical Notion Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:10:49 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-11364 [...] needs to end, fullstop. Calling something that is legally and morally rape, rape, is not “minimizing” the true horror of rape. It’s recognizing the reality and the actual horror all rape victims undergo, regardless of [...] [...] needs to end, fullstop. Calling something that is legally and morally rape, rape, is not “minimizing” the true horror of rape. It’s recognizing the reality and the actual horror all rape victims undergo, regardless of [...]

]]> By: Yes, Statutory Rape Is Real Rape : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-10303 Yes, Statutory Rape Is Real Rape : The Curvature Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:39:49 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-10303 [...] again, we get into the “this rape is worse than that rape” phenomenon.  And those who like to play this game do so for the purpose of invalidating certain rapes as not [...] [...] again, we get into the “this rape is worse than that rape” phenomenon.  And those who like to play this game do so for the purpose of invalidating certain rapes as not [...]

]]> By: Queensland Attorney-General: Some Rapes “Minor,” “Technical” : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-9027 Queensland Attorney-General: Some Rapes “Minor,” “Technical” : The Curvature Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:45:50 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-9027 [...] problem is that this attitude is far too prevalent.  I’ve seen and suffered it first hand. We’re not looking at a fluke, or a single bad egg.  We’re looking at one huge system [...] [...] problem is that this attitude is far too prevalent.  I’ve seen and suffered it first hand. We’re not looking at a fluke, or a single bad egg.  We’re looking at one huge system [...]

]]> By: SunlessNick http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-8355 SunlessNick Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:49:00 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-8355 <blockquote>But ‘rape’. That word has power. It’s one of the last bastions of societal discourse that stops you dead and makes you think. <strong>- Dean</strong></blockquote>If that's really true - and other commentators have pretty much demolished that - but even if, isn't that a reason <em>to</em> use it? Why shouldn't crimes against women be referred to with powerful words?

But ‘rape’. That word has power. It’s one of the last bastions of societal discourse that stops you dead and makes you think. - Dean

If that’s really true – and other commentators have pretty much demolished that – but even if, isn’t that a reason to use it? Why shouldn’t crimes against women be referred to with powerful words?

]]> By: Cici http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-8013 Cici Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:22:46 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-8013 Rev. Stuart Campbell can stuff a shit filled sock in it. Anyone attempting to argue the definition/meaning of rape obviously has never endured the experience. Therefore if you’ve never experienced it than you don’t know what your talking about. More over anyone attempting to argue such a point in a discussion with rape victim is a cruel and blindly ignorant fucking asshole. All of which nullify any points attempting to be made such toxic dimwits. That jackass may have counseled a few women through their experience but that doesn’t mean that he has the right to speak for them or for their experiences. The fact that he has counseled such victims and can say such things proves he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, lacks the sensitivity to even remotely understand it, and didn’t fully understand what those women he “counseled” were going through. I don’t care what the law says in the USA, in the UK or on Mars. And I find any debate on what is used - penis, finger, broomstick, chopstick, paperclip – in an act of a rape to be disgusting. Rape is rape. Period. And until this act is no longer committed in society I don’t feel that we have the right to call ourselves civilized. Don't let him or any other trolls get to you. Keep up the good work and don’t take in any of that crap. People like that have no right to speak for this issue. Rev. Stuart Campbell can stuff a shit filled sock in it. Anyone attempting to argue the definition/meaning of rape obviously has never endured the experience. Therefore if you’ve never experienced it than you don’t know what your talking about. More over anyone attempting to argue such a point in a discussion with rape victim is a cruel and blindly ignorant fucking asshole. All of which nullify any points attempting to be made such toxic dimwits.
That jackass may have counseled a few women through their experience but that doesn’t mean that he has the right to speak for them or for their experiences. The fact that he has counseled such victims and can say such things proves he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, lacks the sensitivity to even remotely understand it, and didn’t fully understand what those women he “counseled” were going through.
I don’t care what the law says in the USA, in the UK or on Mars. And I find any debate on what is used – penis, finger, broomstick, chopstick, paperclip – in an act of a rape to be disgusting. Rape is rape. Period. And until this act is no longer committed in society I don’t feel that we have the right to call ourselves civilized.

Don’t let him or any other trolls get to you. Keep up the good work and don’t take in any of that crap. People like that have no right to speak for this issue.

]]> By: Day of Blogs » 38: “Real Rape” http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-6430 Day of Blogs » 38: “Real Rape” Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:43:47 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-6430 [...] narrow and attacking those who speak about their experiences with what actually is real rape. In On ‘Real Rape’ and Rape Apologists, I respond to those who attacked me personally for my comments about an alleged assault committed [...] [...] narrow and attacking those who speak about their experiences with what actually is real rape. In On ‘Real Rape’ and Rape Apologists, I respond to those who attacked me personally for my comments about an alleged assault committed [...]

]]> By: Day of Blogs » 28: Medical Rape http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-6425 Day of Blogs » 28: Medical Rape Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:48:11 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-6425 [...] Debi recently shared her story of violation at the hands of a doctor and was ruthelessly attacked and insulted by another blogger for the mere suggestion that rape might be a proper word to describe the forcible penetration she endured for no valid reason.  What was particularly interesting about it is the way that it paralleled how those of us who have shared sexual violence stories have often be treated online. [...] [...] Debi recently shared her story of violation at the hands of a doctor and was ruthelessly attacked and insulted by another blogger for the mere suggestion that rape might be a proper word to describe the forcible penetration she endured for no valid reason.  What was particularly interesting about it is the way that it paralleled how those of us who have shared sexual violence stories have often be treated online. [...]

]]> By: Feministe » This Time Syndrome http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-6066 Feministe » This Time Syndrome Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:07:54 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-6066 [...] is a very, very serious crime. I just think that this time she’s lying/it’s not rape because (insert minimization and victim-blaming here) /she [...] [...] is a very, very serious crime. I just think that this time she’s lying/it’s not rape because (insert minimization and victim-blaming here) /she [...]

]]> By: Daughter of the Ring of Fire » Blog Archive » Appropriating Experience for Fun and Profit http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/03/on-real-rape-and-rape-apologists/#comment-4957 Daughter of the Ring of Fire » Blog Archive » Appropriating Experience for Fun and Profit Sat, 17 May 2008 00:45:43 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=711#comment-4957 [...] at The Curvature, Cara is dealing with an influx of trolls responding to her refusal to give space to an individual who sought.... Not surprisingly, he is attempting to enforce a narrow definition that ignores the most damaging [...] [...] at The Curvature, Cara is dealing with an influx of trolls responding to her refusal to give space to an individual who sought…. Not surprisingly, he is attempting to enforce a narrow definition that ignores the most damaging [...]

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