Comments on: The Importance of Real Sex Education http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/ Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:40:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Real Sex Education Gets a Chance : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-10194 Real Sex Education Gets a Chance : The Curvature Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:42:02 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-10194 [...] probably a lot more importantly, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of explicit discussion about meaningful consent.  I hope it’s in there (I mean, I really hope it’s in there), but in the otherwise [...] [...] probably a lot more importantly, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of explicit discussion about meaningful consent.  I hope it’s in there (I mean, I really hope it’s in there), but in the otherwise [...]

]]> By: The Link Between Teen Pregnancy and Sexual Violence : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-6832 The Link Between Teen Pregnancy and Sexual Violence : The Curvature Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:16:49 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-6832 [...] a person who has long believed that sex education should actually be about sex rather than just about contraception, and that [...] [...] a person who has long believed that sex education should actually be about sex rather than just about contraception, and that [...]

]]> By: Day of Blogs » 3: Do You Ask? http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-6416 Day of Blogs » 3: Do You Ask? Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:03:53 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-6416 [...] As I’ve said before, I genuinely do wonder the impact that affirmative consent models could have had on my life as a teen. It was not a message I had ever really heard. It was one I needed to hear in order to know that what was being done to me was wrong. Fear is not consent. Silence is not consent. Consent is telling your partner what you want. It’s freely saying yes. [...] [...] As I’ve said before, I genuinely do wonder the impact that affirmative consent models could have had on my life as a teen. It was not a message I had ever really heard. It was one I needed to hear in order to know that what was being done to me was wrong. Fear is not consent. Silence is not consent. Consent is telling your partner what you want. It’s freely saying yes. [...]

]]> By: Women’s Infidelity « Jem’s Lair http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5458 Women’s Infidelity « Jem’s Lair Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:55:55 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5458 [...] Cara said it here: The goal is that enthusiastic consent models will help to change the thinking from “sex when [...] [...] Cara said it here: The goal is that enthusiastic consent models will help to change the thinking from “sex when [...]

]]> By: Leeann http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5370 Leeann Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:03:06 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5370 Thank you for such a fantastic post! I couldn't agree more. Thank you for such a fantastic post! I couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: Talkin’ bout my…education? « A Lesbian and a Scholar http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5318 Talkin’ bout my…education? « A Lesbian and a Scholar Sat, 31 May 2008 20:45:56 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5318 [...] bout my…education? Cara at the Curvature recently wrote a very thought-provoking post about what she calls “real sex education.”  I’m not going to talk a lot about [...] [...] bout my…education? Cara at the Curvature recently wrote a very thought-provoking post about what she calls “real sex education.”  I’m not going to talk a lot about [...]

]]> By: Kate http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5259 Kate Thu, 29 May 2008 14:44:49 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5259 Bravo! Wonderful post! Even though my son isn't even 2 years old, I often fret about what I can/should do to raise him with feminist ideals so that he will grow up to understand sex in the ways you described. I was wondering, does RH, Planned Parenthood or any other organizations like that have lesson plans or the like for teaching kids along the lines of enthusiastic consent? Has anyone ever heard of some type of curriculum or talking points being made for parents who want to give their kids real sex Ed? Bravo! Wonderful post! Even though my son isn’t even 2 years old, I often fret about what I can/should do to raise him with feminist ideals so that he will grow up to understand sex in the ways you described. I was wondering, does RH, Planned Parenthood or any other organizations like that have lesson plans or the like for teaching kids along the lines of enthusiastic consent? Has anyone ever heard of some type of curriculum or talking points being made for parents who want to give their kids real sex Ed?

]]> By: Ned B http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5242 Ned B Wed, 28 May 2008 18:29:43 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5242 Excellent Post. My own experience backs up Cara's points. While I had good sex ed. when I was in high school (I'm in my late 40s now, so its been a while) that even discussed things like the clitoris, where it was, and what it did. The course did not really discuss pleasure. I was fortunate in my first few invovlements. These women had been raised to, at least technically, maintain their virginity till marriage. Hence we did other things besides traditional intercourse. That taught about female pleasure generally and taught about listening, in both the narrow and broad senses, to see how your partner was doing. This is something that wouldn't likely have happened as much or as quickly with an emphasis on just intercourse. Also, these early partners masterbated. So they knew what they liked and wanted. Believe me, in addition to including aspects relevant other than those of traditional hetero practice, your nicer hetero guys appreciate any helpful hints from partners who know themselves and know what they want. Kudos for calling on sex ed. to go beyond what George Carlin referred to as "good old American man-on-top get-it-over-with-quick." Excellent Post. My own experience backs up Cara’s points. While I had good sex ed. when I was in high school (I’m in my late 40s now, so its been a while) that even discussed things like the clitoris, where it was, and what it did. The course did not really discuss pleasure. I was fortunate in my first few invovlements. These women had been raised to, at least technically, maintain their virginity till marriage. Hence we did other things besides traditional intercourse. That taught about female pleasure generally and taught about listening, in both the narrow and broad senses, to see how your partner was doing. This is something that wouldn’t likely have happened as much or as quickly with an emphasis on just intercourse. Also, these early partners masterbated. So they knew what they liked and wanted. Believe me, in addition to including aspects relevant other than those of traditional hetero practice, your nicer hetero guys appreciate any helpful hints from partners who know themselves and know what they want. Kudos for calling on sex ed. to go beyond what George Carlin referred to as “good old American man-on-top get-it-over-with-quick.”

]]> By: morgan http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5225 morgan Wed, 28 May 2008 00:25:57 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5225 That the sexist aspect of most sex education programs seems "subconscious" does not make their design and effect any less pernicious. They seem normal because they fit neatly with rhetoric commonly deployed to suppress the sexuality of women. In addition to being profoundly heterosexist, exclusively discussing male-female penetrative sex reinforces the notion that women do not enjoy sex (narrowly defined as it is in schools and elsewhere), thereby instilling in young men the idea that if they want sex, they'll have to take it, and that they have every right to do so. And, Cara, I could not agree with you more. Thanks for all you do. That the sexist aspect of most sex education programs seems “subconscious” does not make their design and effect any less pernicious. They seem normal because they fit neatly with rhetoric commonly deployed to suppress the sexuality of women. In addition to being profoundly heterosexist, exclusively discussing male-female penetrative sex reinforces the notion that women do not enjoy sex (narrowly defined as it is in schools and elsewhere), thereby instilling in young men the idea that if they want sex, they’ll have to take it, and that they have every right to do so.

And, Cara, I could not agree with you more. Thanks for all you do.

]]> By: misslyddie http://thecurvature.com/2008/05/26/the-importance-of-real-sex-education/#comment-5224 misslyddie Tue, 27 May 2008 21:55:20 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=740#comment-5224 Seriously. I think that shame about our (meaning women) bodies and sexuality is a major contributing factor to why there is a tendency among women and girls to turn to disordered eating in times of stress. Real sex education that doesn't teach shame and body guilt would be a wonderful thing. Seriously. I think that shame about our (meaning women) bodies and sexuality is a major contributing factor to why there is a tendency among women and girls to turn to disordered eating in times of stress. Real sex education that doesn’t teach shame and body guilt would be a wonderful thing.

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