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	<title>Comments on: Sports Rape Culture Keeps On Thriving</title>
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		<title>By: Former Detective Tells of Intimidation to Drop Rape Charges Against Football Players &#8212; The Curvature</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-18609</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Detective Tells of Intimidation to Drop Rape Charges Against Football Players &#8212; The Curvature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this bears out particularly in this case, as there is a long history of Australian footballers being accused of rape and other sexual assaults, only to be supported by their teams, coaches, and fans. In the U.S., we&#8217;ve seen this dynamic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this bears out particularly in this case, as there is a long history of Australian footballers being accused of rape and other sexual assaults, only to be supported by their teams, coaches, and fans. In the U.S., we&#8217;ve seen this dynamic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Consent &#38; Sex &#171; Pizza Diavola</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-11987</link>
		<dc:creator>Consent &#38; Sex &#171; Pizza Diavola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] consenting to anything and everything), and come home with me (she went somewhere with a stranger, what did she think would happen?), I had the right to rape him and ignore his request to stop fooling around.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] consenting to anything and everything), and come home with me (she went somewhere with a stranger, what did she think would happen?), I had the right to rape him and ignore his request to stop fooling around.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: So you&#8217;re an avid fan of your college&#8217;s sports teams?</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6220</link>
		<dc:creator>So you&#8217;re an avid fan of your college&#8217;s sports teams?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] whatever reason, a lot of commentators lately seem to be sitting up and taking notice of the way college athletes account for a larger percentage of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] whatever reason, a lot of commentators lately seem to be sitting up and taking notice of the way college athletes account for a larger percentage of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for the double posts but...

I have to take issue with this:

&quot;If might is (quite literally) right on the playing field, then it will be treated as such in all aspects of life.&quot;

As a soccer player (from kindergarten to college) I can tell you that might is not the only thing that&#039;s important.  It&#039;s not even the most important thing (though, yes, a certain amount is always essential).  Skill, intelligence, and teamwork are essential as well.  At least in soccer.

The biggest problem with competetive sports isn&#039;t the physical competetion on the field, it&#039;s the way the players are revered off the field, the way some coaches let &quot;star&quot; players get away with being bad teammates, and the way it creates an &quot;us&quot; vs. &quot;them&quot; mentality within the team with regard to everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for the double posts but&#8230;</p>
<p>I have to take issue with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;If might is (quite literally) right on the playing field, then it will be treated as such in all aspects of life.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a soccer player (from kindergarten to college) I can tell you that might is not the only thing that&#8217;s important.  It&#8217;s not even the most important thing (though, yes, a certain amount is always essential).  Skill, intelligence, and teamwork are essential as well.  At least in soccer.</p>
<p>The biggest problem with competetive sports isn&#8217;t the physical competetion on the field, it&#8217;s the way the players are revered off the field, the way some coaches let &#8220;star&#8221; players get away with being bad teammates, and the way it creates an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221; mentality within the team with regard to everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean, what was this girl thinking, leaving the house with a vagina?&quot;

That reminds me of Wanda sykes stand-up bit about detachable vaginas.  With the unspoken punchline being that the vagina isn&#039;t really the part that rapists are after, it&#039;s the violation of consent and autonomy.

(which I know you know, but society tend to ignore that)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean, what was this girl thinking, leaving the house with a vagina?&#8221;</p>
<p>That reminds me of Wanda sykes stand-up bit about detachable vaginas.  With the unspoken punchline being that the vagina isn&#8217;t really the part that rapists are after, it&#8217;s the violation of consent and autonomy.</p>
<p>(which I know you know, but society tend to ignore that)</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6209</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was actually meant to read &quot;Sacred Victim&quot; - though I supposed it amounts to the same thing in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was actually meant to read &#8220;Sacred Victim&#8221; &#8211; though I supposed it amounts to the same thing in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6208</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the old &quot;not following the designated Scared Victim script&quot; ploy.  Anyone hit bongo yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the old &#8220;not following the designated Scared Victim script&#8221; ploy.  Anyone hit bongo yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Jem</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6207</link>
		<dc:creator>Jem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh also, now there&#039;s this http://www.stuff.co.nz/4615055a10.html -  because if you don&#039;t cry, it&#039;s not rape, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh also, now there&#8217;s this <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4615055a10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/4615055a10.html</a> &#8211;  because if you don&#8217;t cry, it&#8217;s not rape, right?</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6201</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even if she were to turn out to be one of those tiny percentages of women, equal to all other crimes, who file false rape reports&quot;

This bit of my last comment was a quote of Cara&#039;s post of course.  I seem to really suck at coding on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even if she were to turn out to be one of those tiny percentages of women, equal to all other crimes, who file false rape reports&#8221;</p>
<p>This bit of my last comment was a quote of Cara&#8217;s post of course.  I seem to really suck at coding on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/07/09/sports-rape-culture-keeps-on-thriving/#comment-6200</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if she were to turn out to be one of those tiny percentages of women, equal to all other crimes, who file false rape reports&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think it&#039;s less than other crimes, not equal.  We see over and over the shit that is piled on women who report rape - how they&#039;re slut-shamed and told how their wrong actions brought it all on themselves (and that&#039;s from people who claim to be on their side) - we see how their lives are more likely to be trashed than the man they accuse.  Reporting a rape involves more pain and less likely return than reporting any other crime - so yeah, I&#039;d need considerable evidence before believing that any woman is voluntarily putting herself through it for no reason.

And I suspect deep down, that most MRA-types and sport-culture enthusiasts get that too.  They just respond to it by hating rape victims even more - for reminding them that when they spew their bile onto victims, they prove that advocates for victims are right when they point out the bile that gets spewed.  How dare the bitches force them to show their true colours like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if she were to turn out to be one of those tiny percentages of women, equal to all other crimes, who file false rape reportsI think it&#8217;s less than other crimes, not equal.  We see over and over the shit that is piled on women who report rape &#8211; how they&#8217;re slut-shamed and told how their wrong actions brought it all on themselves (and that&#8217;s from people who claim to be on their side) &#8211; we see how their lives are more likely to be trashed than the man they accuse.  Reporting a rape involves more pain and less likely return than reporting any other crime &#8211; so yeah, I&#8217;d need considerable evidence before believing that any woman is voluntarily putting herself through it for no reason.</p>
<p>And I suspect deep down, that most MRA-types and sport-culture enthusiasts get that too.  They just respond to it by hating rape victims even more &#8211; for reminding them that when they spew their bile onto victims, they prove that advocates for victims are right when they point out the bile that gets spewed.  How dare the bitches force them to show their true colours like that?</p>
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