http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/ Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:47:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-11195 When a Man is the Victim: A Second Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:07:10 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-11195 [...] previously done an in depth analysis of victim-blaming and rape denial, and how it varies and how it stays the same, in a case of rape [...] [...] previously done an in depth analysis of victim-blaming and rape denial, and how it varies and how it stays the same, in a case of rape [...]

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-8977 links for 2008-12-14 « Shut Up, Sit Down Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:31:03 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-8977 [...] When a Man is The Victim: A Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature "My immediate observation is that if the same circumstances existed with genders reversed, we probably wouldn’t even be hearing about this case at all. But the media loves a story where a woman — the prettier, the better — is the perpetrator of violence against men. They love it both because it’s so significantly less likely to happen and therefore of interest, and because their sharp focus on the case can exaggerate the social perception of the rate at which such instances of violence are committed." (tags: feminism gender rape men) [...] [...] When a Man is The Victim: A Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature "My immediate observation is that if the same circumstances existed with genders reversed, we probably wouldn’t even be hearing about this case at all. But the media loves a story where a woman — the prettier, the better — is the perpetrator of violence against men. They love it both because it’s so significantly less likely to happen and therefore of interest, and because their sharp focus on the case can exaggerate the social perception of the rate at which such instances of violence are committed." (tags: feminism gender rape men) [...]

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-8584 hututu Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:39:59 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-8584 this case should be treated just like a woman raped by a man because the man is being penetrated here. although otherwise its very difficult for a woman to rape a man. this case should be treated just like a woman raped by a man because the man is being penetrated here. although otherwise its very difficult for a woman to rape a man.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7480 Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2008-9-13 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:37:53 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7480 [...] When a Man is The Victim: A Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature “My point after all of this is yet again that rape apologism shifts. It shifts for different reasons. And often, it’s all very contradictory. This is because rape culture has no Karl Rove, no public relations spokesperson. Usually the talking points are there ready and waiting, but then something relatively unusual happens and there’s chaos in the ranks. Many do indeed see, as described above, a man as a more sympathetic victim as compared to a woman and rape suddenly becomes a big deal. Many see allure in pushing aside rates of male violence against women in order to point with exaggeration to the much, much lower rate of female violence against men. Focusing on this case while ignoring all others is a form of rape apologism all on its own.” (tags: violence rape crime society feminism women men gender doublestandard hypocrisy law media) [...] [...] When a Man is The Victim: A Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature “My point after all of this is yet again that rape apologism shifts. It shifts for different reasons. And often, it’s all very contradictory. This is because rape culture has no Karl Rove, no public relations spokesperson. Usually the talking points are there ready and waiting, but then something relatively unusual happens and there’s chaos in the ranks. Many do indeed see, as described above, a man as a more sympathetic victim as compared to a woman and rape suddenly becomes a big deal. Many see allure in pushing aside rates of male violence against women in order to point with exaggeration to the much, much lower rate of female violence against men. Focusing on this case while ignoring all others is a form of rape apologism all on its own.” (tags: violence rape crime society feminism women men gender doublestandard hypocrisy law media) [...]

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7461 Happy Lists Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:34:15 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7461 "dangerous understandings of masculinity are being upheld not by directly protecting male violence but by rejecting “feminized” victimization" - So true. Great commentary. “dangerous understandings of masculinity are being upheld not by directly protecting male violence but by rejecting “feminized” victimization” – So true. Great commentary.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7457 Cara Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:57:46 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7457 Michael -- for all I know she has been abused. And if that's the case, she is equally a victim who did not deserve what happened to her. That does not, however, have any relevance to whether or not she committed a rape. You know, many male rapists have also faced abuse, sexual or otherwise, in the past, and their rapes are in part a response to that abuse. They're still rapists. And rape is not just "acting out." That is a hugely offensive statement. I'm not going to treat this rape any differently just because a woman was the perpetrator. Michael — for all I know she has been abused. And if that’s the case, she is equally a victim who did not deserve what happened to her. That does not, however, have any relevance to whether or not she committed a rape. You know, many male rapists have also faced abuse, sexual or otherwise, in the past, and their rapes are in part a response to that abuse. They’re still rapists. And rape is not just “acting out.” That is a hugely offensive statement. I’m not going to treat this rape any differently just because a woman was the perpetrator.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7455 Michael Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:30:43 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7455 Don't you think that Linda Naggs has been similarly abused in her job as a stripper in the recent past, and is 'acting out?' Especially the "Don't worry, only you and I will know," comment... In the article I read, it said that thye go to these events with a 'minder', who presumably has 111 on speed-dial, I bet that bucks parties get out of hand more often than they don't, especially these days with the prevalence of party drugs. Don’t you think that Linda Naggs has been similarly abused in her job as a stripper in the recent past, and is ‘acting out?’ Especially the “Don’t worry, only you and I will know,” comment… In the article I read, it said that thye go to these events with a ‘minder’, who presumably has 111 on speed-dial, I bet that bucks parties get out of hand more often than they don’t, especially these days with the prevalence of party drugs.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7454 Alexa Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:16:26 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7454 I agree with everyone else, well done. Jenn's first paragraph was spot on as well. I agree with everyone else, well done. Jenn’s first paragraph was spot on as well.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7438 SunlessNick Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:51:21 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7438 Excellent analysis. Excellent analysis.

]]> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/10/when-a-man-is-the-victim-a-study-in-rape-apology/#comment-7435 Renee Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:43:54 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=1581#comment-7435 Thank you for writing this. When I first came across this story I wanted to blog about it but found I didn't have to the words to articulate what I felt. You said it all. Thank you for writing this. When I first came across this story I wanted to blog about it but found I didn’t have to the words to articulate what I felt. You said it all.

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