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		<title>By: Cara A.</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7996</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kids Pulled from Transgender Teacher&#039;s Class&quot;

http://www.kcra.com/cnn-news/17714619/detail.html

I thought this might enrage you as much as I, and I would love to see you post your thoughts on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kids Pulled from Transgender Teacher&#8217;s Class&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kcra.com/cnn-news/17714619/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kcra.com/cnn-news/17714619/detail.html</a></p>
<p>I thought this might enrage you as much as I, and I would love to see you post your thoughts on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7806</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to anyone who is offended by MF&#039;s comment.  I almost didn&#039;t approve it, but then decided that hir statement was based more in ignorance that malice, and there just &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be a teachable moment here.

So, MF, as a thought experiment: what was she supposed to disclose?  Do you disclose, before you have sex with someone, what genitals you were born with, and which genitals you currently have?  If not, why not?  And why is a transgender woman expected to do any differently?  Further, what do you think she lied about?  She&#039;s a woman -- so unless she said to him &quot;I&#039;m a man,&quot; I see no lie here.  And are you saying that a transgender woman is &quot;a man in a dress&quot; -- because from your comment, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what you actually intended, but it&#039;s precisely what your example implies.

And further yet, what does any of this have to do with the fact that her privacy was violated by the government, and the fact that she was physically assaulted by her boyfriend as a result of that violation and his own prejudice and stupidity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to anyone who is offended by MF&#8217;s comment.  I almost didn&#8217;t approve it, but then decided that hir statement was based more in ignorance that malice, and there just <i>might</i> be a teachable moment here.</p>
<p>So, MF, as a thought experiment: what was she supposed to disclose?  Do you disclose, before you have sex with someone, what genitals you were born with, and which genitals you currently have?  If not, why not?  And why is a transgender woman expected to do any differently?  Further, what do you think she lied about?  She&#8217;s a woman &#8212; so unless she said to him &#8220;I&#8217;m a man,&#8221; I see no lie here.  And are you saying that a transgender woman is &#8220;a man in a dress&#8221; &#8212; because from your comment, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what you actually intended, but it&#8217;s precisely what your example implies.</p>
<p>And further yet, what does any of this have to do with the fact that her privacy was violated by the government, and the fact that she was physically assaulted by her boyfriend as a result of that violation and his own prejudice and stupidity?</p>
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		<title>By: MF</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7802</link>
		<dc:creator>MF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... this may be a minority view here, but doesn&#039;t the girlfriend have an obligation to tell her boyfriend her status before engaging in physical intimacy?

As a thought experiment, say that a man dresses as a woman and is able to fool a lesbian into performing a sexual act because she things she is with another woman.  

I&#039;m not sure at what point getting sex under false pretenses escalates to assault but I think this is at least close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; this may be a minority view here, but doesn&#8217;t the girlfriend have an obligation to tell her boyfriend her status before engaging in physical intimacy?</p>
<p>As a thought experiment, say that a man dresses as a woman and is able to fool a lesbian into performing a sexual act because she things she is with another woman.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure at what point getting sex under false pretenses escalates to assault but I think this is at least close.</p>
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		<title>By: What the Fuck? &#171; Mortality&#8217;s Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7777</link>
		<dc:creator>What the Fuck? &#171; Mortality&#8217;s Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] October, 2008 in Emotions, Issues, Morons, Politics &#124; Tags: trans-phobia    Read this! Some dude finds out his girlfriend is trans and goes on to beat her up and the article only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] October, 2008 in Emotions, Issues, Morons, Politics | Tags: trans-phobia    Read this! Some dude finds out his girlfriend is trans and goes on to beat her up and the article only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Harney</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7775</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Harney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer not to say &quot;grant trans people dignity.&quot; We have dignity. It&#039;s more about how stories try to strip that dignity away from us.

I&#039;ve seen this story come up in the past, too.

Thanks for posting this, Cara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer not to say &#8220;grant trans people dignity.&#8221; We have dignity. It&#8217;s more about how stories try to strip that dignity away from us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this story come up in the past, too.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this, Cara.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemur</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7774</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we just now hearing about this? Is it cause the hearing just now happened or something? *confused*
Oh, and wtf is it with newspapers and their lack of respect for trans folk? I mean for fuck&#039;s sake, let&#039;s not make it look like we actually value these people as humans, or grant them dignity, or act like we give a damn about them- can&#039;t have that!
/rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we just now hearing about this? Is it cause the hearing just now happened or something? *confused*<br />
Oh, and wtf is it with newspapers and their lack of respect for trans folk? I mean for fuck&#8217;s sake, let&#8217;s not make it look like we actually value these people as humans, or grant them dignity, or act like we give a damn about them- can&#8217;t have that!<br />
/rant</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7771</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, for fuck&#039;s sake. If Jacobson was being detained for stealing a case of beer, why were they discussing his love life? 

And, also: 
&lt;i&gt;Magistrate Bartley has reserved his decision until early next year.&lt;/i&gt;

Um, why so long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for fuck&#8217;s sake. If Jacobson was being detained for stealing a case of beer, why were they discussing his love life? </p>
<p>And, also:<br />
<i>Magistrate Bartley has reserved his decision until early next year.</i></p>
<p>Um, why so long?</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7770</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I&#039;d missed the reference to the year.  And given the inference, good that she&#039;s ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I&#8217;d missed the reference to the year.  And given the inference, good that she&#8217;s ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7769</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming that she&#039;s okay since this happened in 2006, and they included a recent picture of her.  But no, they didn&#039;t bother mentioning how badly she was injured in the assault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming that she&#8217;s okay since this happened in 2006, and they included a recent picture of her.  But no, they didn&#8217;t bother mentioning how badly she was injured in the assault.</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2008/10/09/only-two-questions/#comment-7768</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third question, how is Fell?  Is she hurt, injured, ok?  The Telegraph doesn&#039;t see fit to mention that either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third question, how is Fell?  Is she hurt, injured, ok?  The Telegraph doesn&#8217;t see fit to mention that either.</p>
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