Comments on: Science Says Men Are Sexist Pigs! Except . . . Not. http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/ Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:40:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: zooeyibz http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10542 zooeyibz Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:26:26 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10542 <blockquote>I didn’t believe that this was something that could possibly be true of “men” in general. I also felt that rather than being used to point out how sexist images of women and sexist attitudes towards women do actually end up hurting men and women alike,</blockquote> Er, why not? Trust me, I can count on one hand the number of men who I'm confident *don't* <a href="http://irresponsibility.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/woman-on-show-why-street-harassment-sucks/" rel="nofollow">instantly and automatically judge me according to my looks and relative sex-ay-ness</a>(and that includes friends). All in all, I think sexist images of women hurt WOMEN quite a lot more than they, hypothetically, hurt men. So I'm not going to worry my pretty head about thu boyz

I didn’t believe that this was something that could possibly be true of “men” in general. I also felt that rather than being used to point out how sexist images of women and sexist attitudes towards women do actually end up hurting men and women alike,

Er, why not? Trust me, I can count on one hand the number of men who I’m confident *don’t* instantly and automatically judge me according to my looks and relative sex-ay-ness(and that includes friends). All in all, I think sexist images of women hurt WOMEN quite a lot more than they, hypothetically, hurt men. So I’m not going to worry my pretty head about thu boyz

]]> By: Uber Marianne » Blog Archive » But! Before I Go . . . http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10493 Uber Marianne » Blog Archive » But! Before I Go . . . Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:35:21 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10493 [...] this entry, the blogger at the Curvature chalks up these articles (also found here and here) to the mere [...] [...] this entry, the blogger at the Curvature chalks up these articles (also found here and here) to the mere [...]

]]> By: Marco http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10486 Marco Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:09:55 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10486 Ah! Another confusing; possibly misleading Psch article. I am certainly glad that I am no longer a shrink! Obfuscation is useless... Ah! Another confusing; possibly misleading Psch article. I am certainly glad that I am no longer a shrink!

Obfuscation is useless…

]]> By: lauredhel http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10477 lauredhel Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:11:49 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10477 Yes, it looks like conference proceedings, which means it hasn't been published (and therefore hasn't passed peer review). But newspapers never report journal titles or references: it's one of my giant bugbears about science reporting. Generally, all they're doing is regurgitating a press release; the journalists have not accessed the paper or report or proceedings in the first place. Yes, it looks like conference proceedings, which means it hasn’t been published (and therefore hasn’t passed peer review). But newspapers never report journal titles or references: it’s one of my giant bugbears about science reporting. Generally, all they’re doing is regurgitating a press release; the journalists have not accessed the paper or report or proceedings in the first place.

]]> By: Etherspirit http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10472 Etherspirit Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:18:22 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10472 I believe all men objectify images of women, perhaps in varying degrees, AND act on it (masturbating). However, I believe this is very different to how men interact with living, breathing, 3-dimensional women. The reasons against sexual images in the workplaces is redundant. After all, that's why people use the NSFW acronym. Secondly, because men do objectify images of women, it's extremely important that the women in those images are perfectly okay with that and under no pressure whatsoever to model. * I believe all men objectify images of women, perhaps in varying degrees, AND act on it (masturbating). However, I believe this is very different to how men interact with living, breathing, 3-dimensional women. The reasons against sexual images in the workplaces is redundant. After all, that’s why people use the NSFW acronym. Secondly, because men do objectify images of women, it’s extremely important that the women in those images are perfectly okay with that and under no pressure whatsoever to model.

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]]> By: Glia http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10459 Glia Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:49:12 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10459 That Telegraph article is truly terribly written. Aside from confusing affect/effect and extent/extinct, there is also this sentence: "With men, who were known to have sexist tendencies, they also discovered that a part of the brain that usually turned on during social interaction actually de-activated when they saw the photograph." It would actually be correct, if only that first comma were omitted, ie, "With men who were known to have sexist tendencies,..." NOT "With men, who were known to have sexist tendencies." A small difference, but so very vital. I have access to the psych article databases, and nothing about this research seems to be available yet. However, in my (related but not identical) field, it is extremely common to report results at meetings well before they are ready for publication. I would guess this was just an abstract and meeting talk on some very recent work, as opposed to an article in print, and therefore may not be available at all for some time yet. That Telegraph article is truly terribly written. Aside from confusing affect/effect and extent/extinct, there is also this sentence:

“With men, who were known to have sexist tendencies, they also discovered that a part of the brain that usually turned on during social interaction actually de-activated when they saw the photograph.”

It would actually be correct, if only that first comma were omitted, ie, “With men who were known to have sexist tendencies,…” NOT “With men, who were known to have sexist tendencies.” A small difference, but so very vital.

I have access to the psych article databases, and nothing about this research seems to be available yet. However, in my (related but not identical) field, it is extremely common to report results at meetings well before they are ready for publication. I would guess this was just an abstract and meeting talk on some very recent work, as opposed to an article in print, and therefore may not be available at all for some time yet.

]]> By: MandyV http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10457 MandyV Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:29:36 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10457 I too found the photo accompanying the article to be highly ironic given the written contents of the piece. I too found the photo accompanying the article to be highly ironic given the written contents of the piece.

]]> By: frau sally benz http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/16/science-says-men-are-sexist-pigs-except-not/#comment-10456 frau sally benz Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:18:35 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=3887#comment-10456 Who comes up with these headlines? Seriously?? I just don't understand... I took a look at Dr. Fiske's CV and she has a number of studies currently listed as "in press" or "under review" so I'm assuming this information comes from one of those. If she's already presenting her findings at conferences, I'm assuming it should be published soon. Anybody out there have access to PsycInfo or PsycArticles? Also, I love Fiske's work and used it all the time for my Psych & WST papers. Love it! (Just an aside, what's w/the picture from the first link? Is that a runway? Where was that woman going with that outfit? Serious question... Totally. lol) Who comes up with these headlines? Seriously?? I just don’t understand…

I took a look at Dr. Fiske’s CV and she has a number of studies currently listed as “in press” or “under review” so I’m assuming this information comes from one of those. If she’s already presenting her findings at conferences, I’m assuming it should be published soon. Anybody out there have access to PsycInfo or PsycArticles? Also, I love Fiske’s work and used it all the time for my Psych & WST papers. Love it!

(Just an aside, what’s w/the picture from the first link? Is that a runway? Where was that woman going with that outfit? Serious question… Totally. lol)

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