Comments on: Let Us Pity the Poor Rapist http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/ Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:47:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Renee http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10784 Renee Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:46:52 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10784 This story is absolutely appalling. I am particularly upset that he is being allowed to purchase his way out of punishment. I don't care how much money this man makes, what he did to the victim is inexcusable. She will have to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of her life and no amount of money can wash away the pain. He was purposeful in his actions. The whole drunken buffoonery is nothing more than a cover for his sense of entitlement. This kind of thing is going to continue to happen until we decide that it is unacceptable to rape women. This story is absolutely appalling. I am particularly upset that he is being allowed to purchase his way out of punishment. I don’t care how much money this man makes, what he did to the victim is inexcusable. She will have to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of her life and no amount of money can wash away the pain. He was purposeful in his actions. The whole drunken buffoonery is nothing more than a cover for his sense of entitlement. This kind of thing is going to continue to happen until we decide that it is unacceptable to rape women.

]]> By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10780 sarah.of.a.lesser.god Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:38:01 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10780 Wait, name suppression for the rapist? The mind, it boggles. Wait, name suppression for the rapist? The mind, it boggles.

]]> By: Anon Ymous http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10760 Anon Ymous Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:58:21 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10760 Karak: I wasn't even thinking of the force required when I was thinking how f*cked up the excuse of a*se-grabbing was... no idea why. What struck me as fishy was, in my experience (a couple of occasions) of getting my a*se grabbed by drunken idiots, who were too drunk to realise they would cause offence with it and apologised immediately when I made it clear I didn't like it (I'm a big lass [6'1], and usually the sober one at pubs etc, and drunken apologies are pretty funny, really)... well, even really drunk guys know where the basic anatomy is. A guy who thinks grabbing an a*se-cheek is funny and doesn't mean to penetrate - doesn't penetrate. His fingers don't go anywhere near there. It's a fair way around, and I reckon you have to be aiming for it to rape a person like that. And no, I don't like the fact that grabbing a girl's a*se is seen as just playing and not real assault, but that's the way it is, and that's what this trial is playing on. His defence is playing on the fact that if he was only horsing around then he's just a regular bloke who made a mistake (and is real sorry for it. Honest). But the story doesn't wash. As Karak noted, he must have used a *lot* of force, and I reckon he must have known he was reaching around towards the front side. There's no way this was regular sh*ts and giggles - normal piggery doesn't "accidentally" make an a*sehole into a rapist. It just doesn't happen. Karak: I wasn’t even thinking of the force required when I was thinking how f*cked up the excuse of a*se-grabbing was… no idea why.

What struck me as fishy was, in my experience (a couple of occasions) of getting my a*se grabbed by drunken idiots, who were too drunk to realise they would cause offence with it and apologised immediately when I made it clear I didn’t like it (I’m a big lass [6'1], and usually the sober one at pubs etc, and drunken apologies are pretty funny, really)… well, even really drunk guys know where the basic anatomy is. A guy who thinks grabbing an a*se-cheek is funny and doesn’t mean to penetrate – doesn’t penetrate. His fingers don’t go anywhere near there. It’s a fair way around, and I reckon you have to be aiming for it to rape a person like that.

And no, I don’t like the fact that grabbing a girl’s a*se is seen as just playing and not real assault, but that’s the way it is, and that’s what this trial is playing on. His defence is playing on the fact that if he was only horsing around then he’s just a regular bloke who made a mistake (and is real sorry for it. Honest).

But the story doesn’t wash. As Karak noted, he must have used a *lot* of force, and I reckon he must have known he was reaching around towards the front side. There’s no way this was regular sh*ts and giggles – normal piggery doesn’t “accidentally” make an a*sehole into a rapist.

It just doesn’t happen.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10754 Cara Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:02:43 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10754 Akeeyu -- yeah, I really do believe in the adage (was it Ghandi who said it, I think?) that an eye for an eye will leave us all blind. So I hardly subscribe to that kind of theory of "justice," and I think that prison rape is a monumental problem that needs to be eradicated, like, NOW and that no one, not even the worst murderers, should have to endure rape as a part of their punishment for their crimes. But that being said? Yeah, that is seriously fucked up. Akeeyu — yeah, I really do believe in the adage (was it Ghandi who said it, I think?) that an eye for an eye will leave us all blind. So I hardly subscribe to that kind of theory of “justice,” and I think that prison rape is a monumental problem that needs to be eradicated, like, NOW and that no one, not even the worst murderers, should have to endure rape as a part of their punishment for their crimes.

But that being said? Yeah, that is seriously fucked up.

]]> By: akeeyu http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10753 akeeyu Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:07:30 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10753 Speaking of pitying the poor rapist... There's a guy up here who raped two women and got 20 years (yay), which I suspect has to with the fact that he is a POC (boo), but either way, he is now begging to be executed. Why? Because he's afraid of getting raped in prison and said "I prefer death a thousand times over being raped." Well...um...look, dude, I really can't help you, there. The irony has rusted over and rendered me completely immobile. And furthermore: "I want to pay for the act of cowardice," he added. "I admit it, but I just don't want to be raped." Not that I'm advocating prison rape, here, but come ON, Mr. Rapist. You don't see a connection at all? Not even a little bit? Not even a teensy bit of self reflection and abject groveling to your victims about how you forced them to endure something a thousand times worse than death? No? It's all whining about you and your feelings? Welcome to douchebag. Population: You. Speaking of pitying the poor rapist…

There’s a guy up here who raped two women and got 20 years (yay), which I suspect has to with the fact that he is a POC (boo), but either way, he is now begging to be executed. Why? Because he’s afraid of getting raped in prison and said “I prefer death a thousand times over being raped.”

Well…um…look, dude, I really can’t help you, there. The irony has rusted over and rendered me completely immobile.

And furthermore: “I want to pay for the act of cowardice,” he added. “I admit it, but I just don’t want to be raped.”

Not that I’m advocating prison rape, here, but come ON, Mr. Rapist. You don’t see a connection at all? Not even a little bit? Not even a teensy bit of self reflection and abject groveling to your victims about how you forced them to endure something a thousand times worse than death? No? It’s all whining about you and your feelings?

Welcome to douchebag. Population: You.

]]> By: Aspasia http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10752 Aspasia Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:49:54 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10752 *boggles* Just...wow. Okay, exactly through which layer of clothing would the judge have deemed it too intrusive? Three? Four? Snowsuit thickness? What, dude, what? *boggles*

Just…wow. Okay, exactly through which layer of clothing would the judge have deemed it too intrusive? Three? Four? Snowsuit thickness? What, dude, what?

]]> By: Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2009-02-28 http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10746 Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2009-02-28 Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:31:54 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10746 [...] Let Us Pity the Poor Rapist : The Curvature "Come on, folks! This was drunken and impulsive! No worse than putting a lampshade on your head and dancing around the house like a moron! Well okay, maybe a little bit worse, but can’t we all agree that this man has suffered enough? After all, he said he was sorry, the people he knows have been very upset to learn what kind of guy they’ve been hanging out with, and now he has to go to such godforsaken lands as Japan! And Ireland! [...] [...] Let Us Pity the Poor Rapist : The Curvature "Come on, folks! This was drunken and impulsive! No worse than putting a lampshade on your head and dancing around the house like a moron! Well okay, maybe a little bit worse, but can’t we all agree that this man has suffered enough? After all, he said he was sorry, the people he knows have been very upset to learn what kind of guy they’ve been hanging out with, and now he has to go to such godforsaken lands as Japan! And Ireland! [...]

]]> By: belledame222 http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10741 belledame222 Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:47:04 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10741 retch retch

]]> By: Amanda http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10740 Amanda Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:16:42 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10740 In NZ we are terrible at actually handing out appropriate sentences. Most assault cases end in community service and/or a fine. Recently a police officer was arrested for assaulting his wife. He received 400 hours community service, which I can assure you is a piece of cake. Another recent case was a family who abused their young two year old daughter until she eventually died from her injuries. This included her being placed in a drycleaner and it turned on, hung on the clothesline and swung around, wrestling moves used on her and being kicked across the room. The family members that did those horrible things received life sentences with a non-parole sentence of 15 years. Parole which they are very likely to get. We have a shameful history of victim-blaming and poor sentencing. And with our current government, I can't imagine it changing any time soon. In NZ we are terrible at actually handing out appropriate sentences. Most assault cases end in community service and/or a fine. Recently a police officer was arrested for assaulting his wife. He received 400 hours community service, which I can assure you is a piece of cake. Another recent case was a family who abused their young two year old daughter until she eventually died from her injuries. This included her being placed in a drycleaner and it turned on, hung on the clothesline and swung around, wrestling moves used on her and being kicked across the room.

The family members that did those horrible things received life sentences with a non-parole sentence of 15 years. Parole which they are very likely to get.

We have a shameful history of victim-blaming and poor sentencing. And with our current government, I can’t imagine it changing any time soon.

]]> By: SunlessNick http://thecurvature.com/2009/02/27/let-us-pity-the-poor-rapist/#comment-10739 SunlessNick Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:46:27 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4080#comment-10739 From the news story:<blockquote>In negotiations before the sentencing, Paringatai had agreed to make a voluntary emotional harm reparation payment of $10,000 to the woman. Judge Neave said he wanted to make it quite clear this was a way of showing his remorse and because of his concern for her.</blockquote>Isn't it interesting how his concern is so great just before his punishment is decided, but not when deciding whether to commit the crime. But I guess noticing stuff like that is just some of the mean-spiritedness that the judge warned this poor man might face. From the news story:
In negotiations before the sentencing, Paringatai had agreed to make a voluntary emotional harm reparation payment of $10,000 to the woman.

Judge Neave said he wanted to make it quite clear this was a way of showing his remorse and because of his concern for her.

Isn’t it interesting how his concern is so great just before his punishment is decided, but not when deciding whether to commit the crime. But I guess noticing stuff like that is just some of the mean-spiritedness that the judge warned this poor man might face.

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