Comments on: Speechless http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/ Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:40:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Phrases guaranteed to make me so angry my vision blurs « I am the Lizard Queen! http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11196 Phrases guaranteed to make me so angry my vision blurs « I am the Lizard Queen! Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:07:58 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11196 [...] cause people to take the “worse” acts of rape less seriously?  (Because, honestly, does western culture even really take some of the more extreme cases all that seriously to begin wit...?)  And in what universe does calling “surprise”-non-consensual-anal-sex rape qualify [...] [...] cause people to take the “worse” acts of rape less seriously?  (Because, honestly, does western culture even really take some of the more extreme cases all that seriously to begin wit…?)  And in what universe does calling “surprise”-non-consensual-anal-sex rape qualify [...]

]]> By: SunlessNick http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11192 SunlessNick Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:56:16 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11192 <blockquote>By pleading guilty at this point - once Elisabeth has already had to do all the legal shit, and sign statements, and repeat what happened time and time again, and finally testify in court - he’s not given up even a modicum of control.</blockquote>Taking advantage of the last chance he would ever have to hurt her. He's been sentenced to life in a psychiatric facility. Hopefully that means he'll never get out.

By pleading guilty at this point – once Elisabeth has already had to do all the legal shit, and sign statements, and repeat what happened time and time again, and finally testify in court – he’s not given up even a modicum of control.

Taking advantage of the last chance he would ever have to hurt her.

He’s been sentenced to life in a psychiatric facility. Hopefully that means he’ll never get out.

]]> By: Missy http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11156 Missy Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:39:35 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11156 FYI for everyone - he is finally pleading guilty on all charges - including the murder charge. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/18/austria.incest.trial.fritzl/index.html (there are a few video links off the story as well) I hope this asshole gets the maximum sentence he deserves worse than that. FYI for everyone – he is finally pleading guilty on all charges – including the murder charge.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/18/austria.incest.trial.fritzl/index.html

(there are a few video links off the story as well)

I hope this asshole gets the maximum sentence he deserves worse than that.

]]> By: Required Reading : The Curvature http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11155 Required Reading : The Curvature Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:59:27 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11155 [...] post by Lisa at My Ecdysis, No Person is “Born to Rape” — about Josef Frizl, rape culture, how rape is regularly framed as inevitable and uncontrollable, which rapes are [...] [...] post by Lisa at My Ecdysis, No Person is “Born to Rape” — about Josef Frizl, rape culture, how rape is regularly framed as inevitable and uncontrollable, which rapes are [...]

]]> By: Anna http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11154 Anna Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:50:29 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11154 I don't think he feels guilt now. In fact, I'm pretty certain of it. There was something on the news that struck a bit of a chord with me; the guy on the news going on about Fritzl's need for control and how by pleading guilty to all charges today he finally relinquished that control. Except, he didn't. By pleading guilty at this point - once Elisabeth has already had to do all the legal shit, and sign statements, and repeat what happened time and time again, and finally testify in court - he's not given up even a modicum of control. He knew he was going to get sent down, for a very long time; and by doing this he has only lessened his jail sentence and turned all focus back onto him and his possible motives for doing so. I don’t think he feels guilt now. In fact, I’m pretty certain of it.
There was something on the news that struck a bit of a chord with me; the guy on the news going on about Fritzl’s need for control and how by pleading guilty to all charges today he finally relinquished that control.
Except, he didn’t. By pleading guilty at this point – once Elisabeth has already had to do all the legal shit, and sign statements, and repeat what happened time and time again, and finally testify in court – he’s not given up even a modicum of control. He knew he was going to get sent down, for a very long time; and by doing this he has only lessened his jail sentence and turned all focus back onto him and his possible motives for doing so.

]]> By: mzbitca http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11152 mzbitca Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:14:36 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11152 Just an update. He had pleaded guilty to all charges. He reports that hearing his daughter's testimony made him do it. Interesting that he never felt any guilt while he was committing this acts Just an update. He had pleaded guilty to all charges. He reports that hearing his daughter’s testimony made him do it.
Interesting that he never felt any guilt while he was committing this acts

]]> By: Feminist Avatar http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11146 Feminist Avatar Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:16:35 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11146 But remember in Europe, we run sentences concurrently not consecutively, so it doesn't matter whether you are charged with one rape or ten, you still do the same jail time. But remember in Europe, we run sentences concurrently not consecutively, so it doesn’t matter whether you are charged with one rape or ten, you still do the same jail time.

]]> By: Manon http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11142 Manon Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:15:24 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11142 <i>Mayer described how Fritzl had managed to care for “two families” – “you cannot call someone who does that a monster”.</i> Watch me, Rudy. WATCH ME. Jesus. Mayer described how Fritzl had managed to care for “two families” – “you cannot call someone who does that a monster”.

Watch me, Rudy. WATCH ME.

Jesus.

]]> By: SunlessNick http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11141 SunlessNick Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:45 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11141 <em>Why can’t they get as many separate incidents of rape out of Elisabeth as she remembers</em> I agree. And even without that, the charge that follows rape - sexual coercion - should be laid on him too. I don't doubt for a second that the "dangerous threat" (to quote the definition) of Fritzl turning on Elizabeth's children was used as coercion against her. Speaking of the children, there should be a raft of child endangerment charges they could add. Why can’t they get as many separate incidents of rape out of Elisabeth as she remembers

I agree. And even without that, the charge that follows rape – sexual coercion – should be laid on him too. I don’t doubt for a second that the “dangerous threat” (to quote the definition) of Fritzl turning on Elizabeth’s children was used as coercion against her.

Speaking of the children, there should be a raft of child endangerment charges they could add.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2009/03/16/speechless/#comment-11140 Cara Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:16:00 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=4382#comment-11140 Well AshKW, from the link that Mike left, the definition of rape they're working off of is already incredibly narrow and really scary. Well AshKW, from the link that Mike left, the definition of rape they’re working off of is already incredibly narrow and really scary.

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