Comments on: Serial Rapist Convicted of Raping His Daughter

By: Man With Mental Disability Sentenced to 100 Years for Sexual Assault : The Curvature

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:10:23 +0000

[...] just go read through the FRIDA blog. Or take a look at this one example I wrote about recently: a man who raped his daughter from the time she was ten years old, and received a mere ten years in p… A man who was then let out of prison and raped his other daughter, who has a mental disability, and [...]

By: Susan

Susan — Thu, 28 May 2009 07:04:22 +0000

@ Kandela

Easy! The Twist-Solution proposes a Wacky Consent Scheme:

http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/02/20/two-posts-two-posts-two-posts-in-one/

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Thu, 28 May 2009 02:58:29 +0000

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By: kandela

kandela — Wed, 27 May 2009 18:15:47 +0000

I agree the language is wholly inappropriate, especially where a conviction has taken place.

Authorities don’t seem to be doing a whole lot to prevent rape by known perpetrators. Short of throwing away the key though, I’m not sure what can be done. Isolation perhaps? Rehabilitation where it is tried seems to have only minor success. Education only works where the perpetrator is naive. Castration is only going to prevent one form of sexual assault. I’m not sure there is an easy answer. I guess more money for dedicated studies would be welcome.

With regard to some of the comments, in rape cases where the only evidence is witness testimony, how do you expect the defence to proceed? In all criminal proceedings in our legal system the onus is on the prosecution to provide sufficient evidence to prove the accused guilty. For the defence to do their job they have to try and show that the evidence is flawed or insufficient. If the only evidence is testimony from the victim the defence is duty bound to question it. Once again I can’t see any simple solution.

By: Tasha

Tasha — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:46:06 +0000

I have thought the same thing before as Lynda – why is it that in a rape case, it is up to the victim to prove they are not lying?

You should send this post to the editor of the Daily. I know that using the words “he had sex with her” and “allegedly raped” are always supposed to be used BEFORE someone is convicted, but when they HAVE be convicted, isn’t it now straight fact – there is absolutely no doubt now that they ARE a rapist and it wasn’t sex.

By: Lynda Hopgood

Lynda Hopgood — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:26:39 +0000

One of the problems with the nature of the way the police and courts deal with rape and sexual assault is that the onus is on the victim to prove that she DIDN’T consent. This is all arse-up: surely the onus should be on the perpetrator to explain why he is SURE she DID. In every other crime, the prosecution make an allegation that the defence have to, well, defend. Rape should be no different.
A good indication that it is normal, consensual sex: you both talked about it beforehand and you both indicated your interest. During sex, she is smiling and/or moaning with pleasure and saying things like “more, more, yes, yes!” and in every other way is enthusiastically participating.
If this is NOT happening, you are either a shit lover or you are NOT having consensual sex. It is not a good thing for her to just lie there quietly and be a receptacle for your sperm – and she shouldn’t have to scream “NO!” repeatedly at you for you to get the hint that she’s not into it. In other words, you don’t have to be an expert on body language to know when someone is or isn’t enjoying sex (or, in the case of rape, “sex”).
I strongly suspect that most men who rape women do so knowing full well the woman is not consenting. Even in cases where consent was originally given and then later withdrawn, men who carry on regardless also do it knowing full well that it is no longer consensual. What we come down to is the male assumption that sex is a given unless explicitly stated otherwise, and that once it has started it is somehow beyond his control to stop – these attitudes have GOT to change and until they do we won’t see any real improvements both in terms of the number of women raped and sexually assaulted every year and also in the number of convictions.

By: Femmostroppo Reader - May 27, 2009 — Hoyden About Town

Femmostroppo Reader - May 27, 2009 — Hoyden About Town — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:01:17 +0000

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By: abyss2hope

abyss2hope — Tue, 26 May 2009 16:34:57 +0000

Cara, you are so right when you point out that all these excuses are just that, excuses, whether they are given by someone who makes even hardened rape apologists cringe or whether they are given by someone who is championed as a man who at worst is guilty of a misunderstanding.

So often these types of assumptions which claim to be about consent are really assumptions about what rapists can get away with. The question becomes: Will investigators, prosecutors and jurors give me their consent on behalf of someone who did not freely consent?