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	<title>Comments on: Man Arranges Rape of His Wife Via Craigslist Ad</title>
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		<title>By: curtis</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12698</link>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t just answer any old ad that says come and have violent sex with me at this address.  Anyone can post such an ad.  A jilted lover.  An ex spouse.  A hated neighbor.  It would be my responsibilty to seriously check the situation out and find out if the person is really consenting.  If not I would be guilty of rape and deserving of a harsh sentance for being predatory and stupid.  Sometimes being stupid is a crime.  The rapist in question is really, really stupid.  He should be locked up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t just answer any old ad that says come and have violent sex with me at this address.  Anyone can post such an ad.  A jilted lover.  An ex spouse.  A hated neighbor.  It would be my responsibilty to seriously check the situation out and find out if the person is really consenting.  If not I would be guilty of rape and deserving of a harsh sentance for being predatory and stupid.  Sometimes being stupid is a crime.  The rapist in question is really, really stupid.  He should be locked up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismone</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12682</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking it was possible that the husband posed as his wife on craigslist, so that the assailant thought he had the woman&#039;s consent, and that &quot;she&quot; told him that her husband would watch, so when the husband did nothing, the assailant assumed that &quot;she&quot; had told the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking it was possible that the husband posed as his wife on craigslist, so that the assailant thought he had the woman&#8217;s consent, and that &#8220;she&#8221; told him that her husband would watch, so when the husband did nothing, the assailant assumed that &#8220;she&#8221; had told the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12676</link>
		<dc:creator>preying mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I got the impression, from reading, that it ‘went without saying’ that the intruder would be charged with rape.&quot;

One of the articles I read on the assault said they were absolutely laying charges against the husband for everything, but that they needed to investigate further with regards to the man who physically attacked the woman.  If they can demonstrate that he knew it was non-consensual or that he made no effort to verify that the woman was consenting, they&#039;ve got him dead to rights.  If the husband contacted the man posing as his wife, on the other hand, they may only be able to conclusively demonstrate something like negligence due to failure to verify consent via a less falsifiable medium.

I can&#039;t imagine how the victim must feel.  First she&#039;s the victim of a stranger-rape in her own home, then it&#039;s discovered that the man she&#039;s been with for over a decade, with whom she shared a home, with whom she has two children, orchestrated the attack.  Horror doesn&#039;t even begin to cover it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I got the impression, from reading, that it ‘went without saying’ that the intruder would be charged with rape.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the articles I read on the assault said they were absolutely laying charges against the husband for everything, but that they needed to investigate further with regards to the man who physically attacked the woman.  If they can demonstrate that he knew it was non-consensual or that he made no effort to verify that the woman was consenting, they&#8217;ve got him dead to rights.  If the husband contacted the man posing as his wife, on the other hand, they may only be able to conclusively demonstrate something like negligence due to failure to verify consent via a less falsifiable medium.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how the victim must feel.  First she&#8217;s the victim of a stranger-rape in her own home, then it&#8217;s discovered that the man she&#8217;s been with for over a decade, with whom she shared a home, with whom she has two children, orchestrated the attack.  Horror doesn&#8217;t even begin to cover it.</p>
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		<title>By: konstanze</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12672</link>
		<dc:creator>konstanze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just when I think people can&#039;t get any sicker. I hope *both* of them get charged and convicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when I think people can&#8217;t get any sicker. I hope *both* of them get charged and convicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12662</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Iamsotah, the only question is whether a man can give sexual consent to another man on behalf of his wife.

Clearly, you seem to think that the answer is &quot;yes,&quot; or at least &quot;maybe.&quot;  Which means you can get off my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Iamsotah, the only question is whether a man can give sexual consent to another man on behalf of his wife.</p>
<p>Clearly, you seem to think that the answer is &#8220;yes,&#8221; or at least &#8220;maybe.&#8221;  Which means you can get off my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Iamsotah</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12661</link>
		<dc:creator>Iamsotah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the guy from criagslist; even if charges were brought he would have a strong defense of &quot;mistake of fact&quot;

Assuming that the husband told the man that he is trying to act out a rape fantasy for his wife, who shares the fantasy. 

The one of judgment over the possibility of woman having such a fantasy is narrow thinking.  

For the me the only question is whether a reasonable person would believe that the wife had such a fantasy, without first discussing the fantasy with the wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the guy from criagslist; even if charges were brought he would have a strong defense of &#8220;mistake of fact&#8221;</p>
<p>Assuming that the husband told the man that he is trying to act out a rape fantasy for his wife, who shares the fantasy. </p>
<p>The one of judgment over the possibility of woman having such a fantasy is narrow thinking.  </p>
<p>For the me the only question is whether a reasonable person would believe that the wife had such a fantasy, without first discussing the fantasy with the wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Koli</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12653</link>
		<dc:creator>Koli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing I really don&#039;t understand is why nobody on Craig&#039;s List flagged that post -- I used to do Craig&#039;s List ads for an old guy who wasn&#039;t very good with computers, and when he firmly instructed me (totally against my  advice) to put up an ad seeking a dog that he could breed with his purebred, the ad went down almost immediately because such ads are against their policy (understandably). Good to know that Craig&#039;s List and their users are more interested in preventing unlicensed dog breeding than in preventing rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I really don&#8217;t understand is why nobody on Craig&#8217;s List flagged that post &#8212; I used to do Craig&#8217;s List ads for an old guy who wasn&#8217;t very good with computers, and when he firmly instructed me (totally against my  advice) to put up an ad seeking a dog that he could breed with his purebred, the ad went down almost immediately because such ads are against their policy (understandably). Good to know that Craig&#8217;s List and their users are more interested in preventing unlicensed dog breeding than in preventing rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12650</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not enough to think a sexual act is consensual it must be confirmed enthusiastically. The rapist gets no breaks from me.  He broke the law and needs to be charged with an offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not enough to think a sexual act is consensual it must be confirmed enthusiastically. The rapist gets no breaks from me.  He broke the law and needs to be charged with an offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12643</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re right, Kandela.  But I long ago learned to not do optimistic readings of police statements regarding sexual assault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re right, Kandela.  But I long ago learned to not do optimistic readings of police statements regarding sexual assault.</p>
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		<title>By: kandela</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/06/05/man-arranges-rape-of-his-wife-via-craigslist-ad/#comment-12641</link>
		<dc:creator>kandela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are being a little pessimistic. I got the impression, from reading, that it &#039;went without saying&#039; that the intruder would be charged with rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are being a little pessimistic. I got the impression, from reading, that it &#8216;went without saying&#8217; that the intruder would be charged with rape.</p>
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