Comments on: Greek Woman Allegedly Set Attacker’s Genitals on Fire http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:48:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ally http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-16473 Ally Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:54:46 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-16473 OK...I know this is a real old post and noone will ever read this post, but it REALLY bothers me all these people in the comments debating whether this was the 'right' thing to do. For f-s sake when some guy is groping you you don't think "oh goodness, I must make sure not to overreact" you just panic! And then react. Fi, you can be all "I’m sure she had other methods of which to defend herself." if you like but the point is that she didn't have time or rational thought to think this through. If someone sat down and told you the situation, and you went through all the options, I'm sure you could find many better ways to behave, but if someone randomly gropes you suddenly you just strike out. Condemming this is essentially saying that when under attack your first reaction should be to stop, for fear of severely harming the other person. Rather than your first reaction being to try and save yourself. This is NOT promoting 'eye for an eye'. Nor is it encouraging violent responses to assult. It is simply promoting the idea that women should be ALLOWED to respond, without having to worry that they will be judged for 'over'responding OK…I know this is a real old post and noone will ever read this post, but it REALLY bothers me all these people in the comments debating whether this was the ‘right’ thing to do.

For f-s sake when some guy is groping you you don’t think “oh goodness, I must make sure not to overreact” you just panic! And then react.

Fi, you can be all “I’m sure she had other methods of which to defend herself.” if you like but the point is that she didn’t have time or rational thought to think this through. If someone sat down and told you the situation, and you went through all the options, I’m sure you could find many better ways to behave, but if someone randomly gropes you suddenly you just strike out.

Condemming this is essentially saying that when under attack your first reaction should be to stop, for fear of severely harming the other person. Rather than your first reaction being to try and save yourself.

This is NOT promoting ‘eye for an eye’. Nor is it encouraging violent responses to assult. It is simply promoting the idea that women should be ALLOWED to respond, without having to worry that they will be judged for ‘over’responding

]]> By: Bad Ass Femmes http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14223 Bad Ass Femmes Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:47:23 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14223 Amen sista. Sock it to 'em, I say. They get what they deserve. Amen sista. Sock it to ‘em, I say. They get what they deserve.

]]> By: Sitome http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14152 Sitome Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:51:58 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14152 Chai Latte - I am totally with you...100%. I was laughing my ass off at him too...and I don't feel one bit bad about it!! Chai Latte – I am totally with you…100%. I was laughing my ass off at him too…and I don’t feel one bit bad about it!!

]]> By: Joan Kelly http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14151 Joan Kelly Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:18:12 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14151 @Aaminah... Sometimes I pronounce your name out loud to myself as "Aw, minah." With my head a little cocked to the side and my hand on my chest. /loving Aaminah for her sweet derail @Aaminah…

Sometimes I pronounce your name out loud to myself as “Aw, minah.” With my head a little cocked to the side and my hand on my chest.

/loving Aaminah for her sweet derail

]]> By: Jamie http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14150 Jamie Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:10:21 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14150 In response to chai latte: It is pronounced OPAH! :-) In response to chai latte:

It is pronounced
OPAH!

:-)

]]> By: Genevieve http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14147 Genevieve Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:51:12 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14147 Y'know, as much as I'm for fighting sexual assault, I'm also a nonviolent person, and the words "genitals on fire" grossed me out a bit at first. But...she did everything else. Told him to stop, threw her drink at him. She was probably scared and pissed off. He had turned from an irritation into a violent person. She didn't want to be sexually assaulted, and I know from experience that just saying no and hoping the dude stops doesn't work. Not even with people you know--why should she be nice to a random stranger threatening her? So yeah, she did the right thing in bad circumstances, circumstances out of her control, and I hope she gets off on self-defense. (And I <i>really</i> hope misogynists/MRAs don't start using her as their poster girl for "women/feminists are crazy/hate men." I've already had to say "no, we're not all like Valerie Solanas" several times--this is a much more complicated situation, and I'm totally on this woman's side.) Y’know, as much as I’m for fighting sexual assault, I’m also a nonviolent person, and the words “genitals on fire” grossed me out a bit at first.

But…she did everything else. Told him to stop, threw her drink at him. She was probably scared and pissed off. He had turned from an irritation into a violent person. She didn’t want to be sexually assaulted, and I know from experience that just saying no and hoping the dude stops doesn’t work. Not even with people you know–why should she be nice to a random stranger threatening her? So yeah, she did the right thing in bad circumstances, circumstances out of her control, and I hope she gets off on self-defense.

(And I really hope misogynists/MRAs don’t start using her as their poster girl for “women/feminists are crazy/hate men.” I’ve already had to say “no, we’re not all like Valerie Solanas” several times–this is a much more complicated situation, and I’m totally on this woman’s side.)

]]> By: Aaminah http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14145 Aaminah Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:42:56 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14145 for about the millionth time, i love joan kelly. :) sorry, cara, for derailing momentarily, but really. i must quote that somewhere... now... :) for about the millionth time, i love joan kelly. :) sorry, cara, for derailing momentarily, but really. i must quote that somewhere… now… :)

]]> By: Joan Kelly http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14141 Joan Kelly Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:07:40 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14141 Fi - If you define "eye for an eye" as "males will stop attacking females because of fear of the physical harm they may well bring on themselves," then fuck yes I want to live in an eye-for-an-eye culture. Now, please. Fi – If you define “eye for an eye” as “males will stop attacking females because of fear of the physical harm they may well bring on themselves,” then fuck yes I want to live in an eye-for-an-eye culture. Now, please.

]]> By: Cara http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14139 Cara Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:28:12 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14139 No, Fi -- I think I made it perfectly clear that I want to live in a culture where women are allowed to defend themselves against violence without being scolded about how they should have defended themselves harder or nicer -- whatever the opposite of what they did was -- and where men who sexually assault women and get their asses handed to them in a way that they never expected when they thought it was perfectly find to assault a woman are given our pity. And I want to live in a culture where a man who gets his ass kicked by a woman who was only defending herself against him is seen as worse off than the woman <i>he assaulted to begin with</i>. Because, you know, I haven't seen anyone who has said "poor guy" yet also bother to say "poor woman." No, Fi — I think I made it perfectly clear that I want to live in a culture where women are allowed to defend themselves against violence without being scolded about how they should have defended themselves harder or nicer — whatever the opposite of what they did was — and where men who sexually assault women and get their asses handed to them in a way that they never expected when they thought it was perfectly find to assault a woman are given our pity. And I want to live in a culture where a man who gets his ass kicked by a woman who was only defending herself against him is seen as worse off than the woman he assaulted to begin with. Because, you know, I haven’t seen anyone who has said “poor guy” yet also bother to say “poor woman.”

]]> By: Fi http://thecurvature.com/2009/08/08/greek-woman-allegedly-set-attackers-genitals-on-fire/#comment-14136 Fi Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:48:22 +0000 http://thecurvature.com/?p=6024#comment-14136 I understand that sexual assault can affect you for the rest of your life, but do we really want to live in an eye for an eye culture? I understand that sexual assault can affect you for the rest of your life, but do we really want to live in an eye for an eye culture?

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