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	<title>Comments on: New Report About Sexual Violence on College Campuses</title>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16408</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the problem is that administrations only treat rape as a horrible crime in the abstract, I think (as a college student myself) it&#039;s because they subscribe to the view that it&#039;s only rape if a stranger jumps out at the victim from behind some bushes and beats her up in the process and she screams and fights back. I think that to many university administrations, rape by an intimate partner, rape because the victim was too incapacitated to consent, and so on aren&#039;t really seen as &quot;rape&quot;, but within the bounds of a normal sexual relationship on a college campus. Sadly, it&#039;s probably true that such events are &quot;normal&quot;, but it doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s right or that it can be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the problem is that administrations only treat rape as a horrible crime in the abstract, I think (as a college student myself) it&#8217;s because they subscribe to the view that it&#8217;s only rape if a stranger jumps out at the victim from behind some bushes and beats her up in the process and she screams and fights back. I think that to many university administrations, rape by an intimate partner, rape because the victim was too incapacitated to consent, and so on aren&#8217;t really seen as &#8220;rape&#8221;, but within the bounds of a normal sexual relationship on a college campus. Sadly, it&#8217;s probably true that such events are &#8220;normal&#8221;, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s right or that it can be ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Quilter</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16127</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Quilter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jennifer Kesler.  If a woman has been raped she should go to the police, not the university administration.  The university administration is neither set up for or is competetnt to deal with criminal matters.  It is important to teach women that rape is a crime which needs the prosecutorial system of the gov&#039;t and not the mediation arm of the teaching institution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jennifer Kesler.  If a woman has been raped she should go to the police, not the university administration.  The university administration is neither set up for or is competetnt to deal with criminal matters.  It is important to teach women that rape is a crime which needs the prosecutorial system of the gov&#8217;t and not the mediation arm of the teaching institution.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16098</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, yes, obviously it&#039;s incredibly wrong for anyone to tell someone to &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; go to the police, or for someone to be unaware of their rights. But I think the issue here is that a lot of the victims went to the school because they didn&#039;t feel safe/comfortable going to the police, and/or felt that the school would/could do more, since the standards of a criminal trial are a lot higher (or should be). Personally, I don&#039;t trust the police any more than I trust a school administration. Your mileage, of course, may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, yes, obviously it&#8217;s incredibly wrong for anyone to tell someone to <i>not</i> go to the police, or for someone to be unaware of their rights. But I think the issue here is that a lot of the victims went to the school because they didn&#8217;t feel safe/comfortable going to the police, and/or felt that the school would/could do more, since the standards of a criminal trial are a lot higher (or should be). Personally, I don&#8217;t trust the police any more than I trust a school administration. Your mileage, of course, may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL FELONIES ARE POLICE MATTERS. Go directly to the police, and don&#039;t even bother telling the school about it. They can find out FROM the police.

I am saying this because when I was in high school, the local school (UT-Knoxville) got caught advising students to report sexual assaults to THEM and not the police. Telling them they HAD to notify campus security, and campus security would decide if the cases should be passed onto police. This turned out to mean: if a case involved one of the football team members, it didn&#039;t merit police attention, as the Vols were a big source of money for the town. If they involved some other kid whose daddy wasn&#039;t too important, well, maybe they got to the police.

After the scandal broke, the sheriff was very vocal in the press, saying felonies must ALWAYS be reported to a real law enforcement agency, and absolutely NO ONE can legally tell you to report it elsewhere first. 

I think we just really need to spread the word about this, because clearly not all young people realize: you have a CIVIL RIGHT to go to the police with any crime report.

Not that the police have a perfect record on taking assaults seriously, but I&#039;d definitely take my chances with them over taking chances on the school, which really just can&#039;t be an impartial third party, with both the accused and accuser being part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL FELONIES ARE POLICE MATTERS. Go directly to the police, and don&#8217;t even bother telling the school about it. They can find out FROM the police.</p>
<p>I am saying this because when I was in high school, the local school (UT-Knoxville) got caught advising students to report sexual assaults to THEM and not the police. Telling them they HAD to notify campus security, and campus security would decide if the cases should be passed onto police. This turned out to mean: if a case involved one of the football team members, it didn&#8217;t merit police attention, as the Vols were a big source of money for the town. If they involved some other kid whose daddy wasn&#8217;t too important, well, maybe they got to the police.</p>
<p>After the scandal broke, the sheriff was very vocal in the press, saying felonies must ALWAYS be reported to a real law enforcement agency, and absolutely NO ONE can legally tell you to report it elsewhere first. </p>
<p>I think we just really need to spread the word about this, because clearly not all young people realize: you have a CIVIL RIGHT to go to the police with any crime report.</p>
<p>Not that the police have a perfect record on taking assaults seriously, but I&#8217;d definitely take my chances with them over taking chances on the school, which really just can&#8217;t be an impartial third party, with both the accused and accuser being part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Links of Great Interest 12/18/09 &#124; The Hathor Legacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links of Great Interest 12/18/09 &#124; The Hathor Legacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This just in &#8212; colleges don&#8217;t want you to know about sexual violence on compus. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This just in &#8212; colleges don&#8217;t want you to know about sexual violence on compus. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sb</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16056</link>
		<dc:creator>sb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an amazing analysis--thank you for posting it.  In addition to their immersion in rape culture, I think a lot of administrators are stuck in the paradigm, from other areas of student affairs, that ALL students (including perpetrators) are their constituents.  So most admins are coming from a place of &quot;how can I serve all students fairly in this situation?&quot;  I don&#039;t think they are, for the most part, even conscious that this &quot;business as usual&quot; is inherently oppressive.  Students have a unique power to make this clear.

The best schools set up an equitable hearing process and/or a track for victims to report and pursue criminal charges.  At the same time, they adopt zero tolerance for traces of rape culture and provide direct victim support from folks at the institution whose job it is.  These folks are usually bound by confidentiality laws that release them from the threat of losing their jobs if they push back against the institution in the mentoring/counseling process.  So, victim advocates, therapists who work with perpetrators, etc.  

This also makes room for administrators to work on culture change and other strategies for prevention.  

You&#039;re right, of course, that student voices are the strongest in this equation.  I wish more schools were farther along but the more voices we raise to change both rape culture and the institutions that reproduce it, the more progress we can make..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amazing analysis&#8211;thank you for posting it.  In addition to their immersion in rape culture, I think a lot of administrators are stuck in the paradigm, from other areas of student affairs, that ALL students (including perpetrators) are their constituents.  So most admins are coming from a place of &#8220;how can I serve all students fairly in this situation?&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think they are, for the most part, even conscious that this &#8220;business as usual&#8221; is inherently oppressive.  Students have a unique power to make this clear.</p>
<p>The best schools set up an equitable hearing process and/or a track for victims to report and pursue criminal charges.  At the same time, they adopt zero tolerance for traces of rape culture and provide direct victim support from folks at the institution whose job it is.  These folks are usually bound by confidentiality laws that release them from the threat of losing their jobs if they push back against the institution in the mentoring/counseling process.  So, victim advocates, therapists who work with perpetrators, etc.  </p>
<p>This also makes room for administrators to work on culture change and other strategies for prevention.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, of course, that student voices are the strongest in this equation.  I wish more schools were farther along but the more voices we raise to change both rape culture and the institutions that reproduce it, the more progress we can make&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly News Round-Up, 12/13 &#171; Women&#8217;s Health News</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16047</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly News Round-Up, 12/13 &#171; Women&#8217;s Health News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cara at the Curvature points to and talks about a New Report About Sexual Violence on College Campuses. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gemma</title>
		<link>http://thecurvature.com/2009/12/10/new-report-about-sexual-violence-on-college-campuses/#comment-16033</link>
		<dc:creator>gemma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i can say is : ._.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i can say is : ._.</p>
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		<title>By: karak</title>
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		<dc:creator>karak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much money do you want to bed that, when a school finally does start treating sexual assault seriously, suddenly, it will be &quot;impossible&quot; and &quot;immoral&quot; to leave the name of a victim out of the public eye?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much money do you want to bed that, when a school finally does start treating sexual assault seriously, suddenly, it will be &#8220;impossible&#8221; and &#8220;immoral&#8221; to leave the name of a victim out of the public eye?</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Trigger for bullying?]

This doesn&#039;t surprise me at all - I hope no one takes offence at my input, but I was a victim of bullying and physical assault at my university, and was told that the only way the bully would be punished would be if I accepted punishment too. As in, I&#039;d obviously done something to provoke her, although there was no evidence of that. The same university told a friend of mine that it was not in fact that she was being bullied, but that SHE was victimizing the bully.

I know it&#039;s not the same as rape in the slightest. In my relatively minor case, the lack of closure (and the idea that she was STILL THERE) freaked me out, and I have insomnia and nightmares because of that, two years later. This is a terrifyingly pervasive issue and schools MUST do something about it. The thing is, who wants to say you&#039;re a victim, and gather other victims together, in front of a university who doesn&#039;t believe you, or if they do, doesn&#039;t care, and in front of the person who hurt you so badly and on purpose? I wouldn&#039;t. Universities for many people represent the first step towards really growing up, leaving home and learning to be a competent, well-rounded adult while still in a safe, youthful environment. And yet there really is no one who will protect you when they should.</description>
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<p>This doesn&#8217;t surprise me at all &#8211; I hope no one takes offence at my input, but I was a victim of bullying and physical assault at my university, and was told that the only way the bully would be punished would be if I accepted punishment too. As in, I&#8217;d obviously done something to provoke her, although there was no evidence of that. The same university told a friend of mine that it was not in fact that she was being bullied, but that SHE was victimizing the bully.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not the same as rape in the slightest. In my relatively minor case, the lack of closure (and the idea that she was STILL THERE) freaked me out, and I have insomnia and nightmares because of that, two years later. This is a terrifyingly pervasive issue and schools MUST do something about it. The thing is, who wants to say you&#8217;re a victim, and gather other victims together, in front of a university who doesn&#8217;t believe you, or if they do, doesn&#8217;t care, and in front of the person who hurt you so badly and on purpose? I wouldn&#8217;t. Universities for many people represent the first step towards really growing up, leaving home and learning to be a competent, well-rounded adult while still in a safe, youthful environment. And yet there really is no one who will protect you when they should.</p>
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