Comments on: Alleged Victim Slut-Shamed, Rape Case Thrown Out

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By: SunlessNick

SunlessNick — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:22 +0000

Jennifer Kesler (who runs The Hathor Legacy) made a very good point about this, though in reference to another case: If speaking your fantasies out loud entitles people to enact them AT you, then everyone who’s ever admitted “Yes, sometimes when I’m depressed I fantasize about dying” is in grave danger.

By: SECRET

SECRET — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:19:58 +0000

ALOT OF YOU MAKE GOOD POINTS….A WHOLE HELLA OF ALOT OF POINTS…AND INDEED THET TRULY DO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT RAPE IS OK…DO THEY KNOW THE MESSAGE THEY SEND TO ACTUAL VICTIMS OF RAPE???…SOMEONES THOUGHTS FANATASIES AND BELIEFS,OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT DOESNT GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO ACT UPON THAT PERSONS THOUGHTS OR FEELINGS WITHOUT THEIR OK…I MYSELF IS A VICTIM OF RAPE READING THAT AND READING ALL COMMENTS UP HERE MADE ME ASK MYSELF BECAUSE I TRUST PEOPLE AND WAS BORN IN THE FAMILY I WAS DID THAT GIVE HIM THE RIGHT TO STEAL MY VIRGINITY????I MEAN JUST SAYING THATS THE MESSAGE THEIR SENDING.

By: VagabondSaint

VagabondSaint — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:40:39 +0000

This is truly appalling. If she had fantasized about sec with someone of a different ethnicity, would that mean that a member of that ethnicity could rape her and get away with it? This is persecution of the victim at its worst.

By: Did you mean small?

Did you mean small? — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:01:46 +0000

Adelheid, your comments are really astute. It doesn’t seem possible that anyone can really believe someone would undergo the torment and difficulty involved in bringing a rape accusation to trial if she or he had not been raped. I think what this decision exposes is the fact that courts, and the community in general, understand the wrong done to women who are raped, whatever the circumstance; they believe some women deserve it. Underneath the legal requirement to present promiscuity (or promiscuous fantasy) as consent in order to let the perpetrators of rape go free, I suspect the true belief expressed by the judges in this case is that it is ok to rape some women.

After all, we don’t have to scratch very hard to expose, in our attitudes to crimes of battery, bullying and even murder, the underlying belief that it is ok to hurt or kill some people.

The grief and rage I feel at this finding comes from the fact that it shows, not that the courts don’t understand that the complainant suffered, but that they think the suffering of people like her — i.e., women who dare to express their sexual desires — doesn’t matter. More dangerously, they believe the crimes of people like the perpetrators, who punish desiring women, are excusable.

By: wiggles

wiggles — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:52:03 +0000

The maybe 1 or 2 out of 100 rape allegations that turn out to be truly false – like nobody actually raped anybody, not the cops equated the victim’s having had a couple tequila shots with consent – are made by someone other than but related to the alleged victim and are always the stranger-in-the-bushes scenario, not the date-gone-bad scenario deniers like to claim are the majority of false rape charges.
Also, an equivalent percentage of robbery and mugging allegations are false but you don’t hear anybody freaking out about that, do you? Or conducting trials on the presumption that the accuser is lying? When’s anybody ever seen that?

By: Ned B.

Ned B. — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:43:41 +0000

Un-f***ing-believable (at least I wish it was). Others have already expressed this more articulately than I, but never mind fantasy. Even if this woman had been having multiple partners, consensually, on a daily basis, if she doesn’t consent, it is rape. I don’t know the details of the case, but to dismiss it from the start for this . . . Arrggggg!

BTW,(again, not an original observation), you don’t see this kind of excrement to excuse other crimes. If someone has their house broken into and all their stuff taken, the fact that they have given to charity or fantasized about getting rid of their possessions is not used to excuse burglary.

By: JeninCanada

JeninCanada — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:42:57 +0000

“The assumption of innocence until proven guilty in rape cases essentially means that the woman is put on trial – because in assuming the defendant is innocent, the court assumes that the woman (or man) is lying, unless they can prove otherwise.” ~Adelheid

Well said and you are absolutely right. I’ve had the ‘do you REALLY think the majority of reported rape cases are false?’ talk with my mom in law and it was VERY frustrating. She’s known one or two women who have ‘cried wolf’, so to speak, so it’s coloured her whole perception of things.

By: Interesting posts, weekend of 1/16/10 « Feminists with Female Sexual Dysfunction

Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:54:32 +0000

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